I'm fortyish. All I require on a cruise ship is a party crowd, that enjoy a boogie and dosn't go to bed at 11.00pm, who are well mannered and sober during the day, who dress for dinner and enjoy maritime lectures, but not bingo.

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Originally posted by Cruiseny:

Desirod, I like your attitude. Can't imagine you amongst religious Republicans though !
Happy Cruising,
Cruiseny

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Religion and politics are more emotional than rational or pragmatic. We agreed not to talk politics anc come together on our commonalities.
C-- and L-- are very gracious, tactful, and expert conversationalists. They were old enough to be a parent and C---- wanted to adopt me. They saw me as Desirod6, not a political entity. There are worse things than being an East Coast liberal queer.

Most of all: we were on the cruise to have a good time, and those that look for a good time get one.

You write:
I don't quite understand why the Texan made a joke that would offend the person who voted for Lazio... I would think a Texas "Hillary" joke would be more likely to offend the Hillary supporters?

I write: It is an attack on New York, from a place [Texas]that calls them Damn Yankees, and gave us George W. Bush who is hated in the East.

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Originally posted by desirod6:
The outside world looks at the USA as the USA, not USA made up of Democrats and Republicans.

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Not entirely true since the “outside” world depends greatly on the actions that are taken by the USA we surely can feel and notice the difference between a republic and democratic USA. You can have a feminine and a masculine government and with that I mean the feminine way is thinking of the larger goal a problem solving method that includes many ways of thinking, while the masculine way is more short term solution that thinks in one direction of thinking. That’s why many corporations that have a masculine based structure often take on female executives to get a new way of thinking which could lead to interesting or inspiring thoughts. Now to reflect this on the USA it is clear that with Bush jr. as president and his way of thinking a very masculine USA is having it’s influence on the rest of the world as opposite to when Clinton was president who had a more feminine way of administrating the USA.
So the outside world is well aware of democrats and republics in the USA (we can also enjoy the president campaigns on our TV’s)

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Originally posted by vg5157:

Actually ,do you count those people ?,I have a friend,("african-american"),who hate, when people identify him as an african-american,he always said he is an black american; I believe Tiger Woods make that correction once.

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1000 Americans
400 British
90 German
40 French
30 Canadian
rest from all over.

100 gays and lesbians

Cunard had French and German social host/hostess's. Announcements were made in 3 languages.

I found the French passengers a friendly delight and very interesting conversatioanlly. I was told if was in France, my politics would be right of center LOL.

British were reserved unless drunk. Ate regularly with a spunky septugenarian Glaswegian couple.

The Germans travelling alone were friendly, but those in groups or couples tended to keep to themselves and not mingle.

There were many singles and the age breakdown was about 75% over 60, and about 10 passengers under the age of 20. My group ran the age gamut.

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Recent QE2 X-Atlantic had 1600 passengers:

1000 Americans
400 British
90 German
40 French
30 Canadian
rest from all over.

100 gays and lesbians

Cunard had French and German social host/hostess's. Announcements were made in 3 languages.

I found the French passengers a friendly delight and very interesting conversatioanlly. I was told if was in France, my politics would be right of center LOL.

British were reserved unless drunk. Ate regularly with a spunky septugenarian Glaswegian couple.

The Germans travelling alone were friendly, but those in groups or couples tended to keep to themselves and not mingle.

There were many singles and the age breakdown was about 75% over 60, and about 10 passengers under the age of 20. My group ran the age gamut.

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Interesting. How about those of Asian, Latin, and African-American decent? I doubt there were very many. So far out of every line I have sailed, Carnival has had the most ethnic diversity among it's passengers. Not on every Carnival cruise, but on a few. All have been majority Caucasian, but some were more diverse then others. The least diverse, probably Holland America. I would say 99% of all passengers were American, Caucasian, and between age 50 and 70.

On the QE2 I will add were a priest and a rabbi. QE2 does have a synagogue. Church services were in the Theatre.

One activity was a joint lecture by the priest and rabbi on people of different faiths coming together.

Hi end cruising has a large Jewish following. Crystal has an alternative kosher cuisine.

I understand the Norwegian Dawn out of NYC is a rainbow coalition of passengers. I think it is because the Eastern Seaboard has more ethnic groups than continental Europe. ND having 10 restaurants could have somethong for everyone.

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Interesting. How about those of Asian, Latin, and African-American decent? I doubt there were very many. So far out of every line I have sailed, Carnival has had the most ethnic diversity among it's passengers. Not on every Carnival cruise, but on a few. All have been majority Caucasian, but some were more diverse then others. The least diverse, probably Holland America. I would say 99% of all passengers were American, Caucasian, and between age 50 and 70.

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My kids are concern as to how diverse the teenage crowd and programs will be. We are Africian Americans.

They have nothing to worry about....folks on RCI are also a very diverse crowd.

"On the QE2 I will add were a priest and a rabbi."

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Originally posted by Key40:
My kids are concern as to how diverse the teenage crowd and programs will be. We are Africian Americans.

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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Yes, RCI attract a broad spectrum of ages, races and even classes.

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HAL would definitely be the most homogeneous... Middle-aged to seniors, 99% white, English-speaking, upper-middle-class North Americans, mostly travelling as couples or families. There were very few singles and I cannot recall running accross a single Asian, African-American, Spanish-speaking, or overtly gay passenger, and the only people who didn't either have a Yankee accent or Southern drawl were the crew, who ironically enough spoke the worst English of any I've experienced.

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Originally posted by cruiseny:

HAL would definitely be the most homogeneous... Middle-aged to seniors, 99% white, English-speaking, upper-middle-class North Americans, mostly travelling as couples or families. There were very few singles and I cannot recall running accross a single Asian, African-American, Spanish-speaking, or overtly gay passenger, and the only people who didn't either have a Yankee accent or Southern drawl were the crew, who ironically enough spoke the worst English of any I've experienced.

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Come on now, you've only been on one HAL cruise.

While HAL in general may be more "homogeneous" than say Carnival and RCI, the composition of the passenger community varies by itinerary. You will find a very different mix on HAL Caribbean vs HAL Alaska vs HAL Mediterranean.

As for the HAL crew speaking the "worst English of any I've experienced" I personally don't consider proper grammar and pronunciation of the English language by the crew to be essential to a enjoyable cruise.

I find the quality of service and attitude to more important and quite frankly I enjoy meeting and speaking with people from different cultures even if they cannot speak the English language flawlessly - especailly on HAL.

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Come on now, you've only been on one HAL cruise.

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As for the HAL crew speaking the "worst English of any I've experienced" I personally don't consider proper grammar and pronunciation of the English language by the crew to be essential to a enjoyable cruise.

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Sure, some of the crew spoke English well, but quite a few spoke very little, and I mean people in front-line positions like cabin stewards or waiters.

It can be quite frustrating to have a waiter misunderstand the same order in the dining room twice, so that by the time you get your main course everyone else is eating their dessert...

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I find the quality of service and attitude to more important and quite frankly I enjoy meeting and speaking with people from different cultures even if they cannot speak the English language flawlessly

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The bottom line is, we had far, far more language trouble on HAL than any other cruise line, for what it's worth. Maybe it was an isolated incident, maybe it wasn't, but it still happened, and there's no pretending that having crew members who speak virtually no English has no impact on service.

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Originally posted by desirod6:
a Snuffy-Smith, Jed Clampett type rural Texan

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I loved being called a damn Yankee which has happened to me visiting Texas. Try driving thru that state with Northern tags.

My parents chose my birthplace and area of growing up, cant help it.

According to my French tablemate on the QE2 whom we did discuss politics, I would be considered right of center were I a French citizen.

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Originally posted by Thoth:

Why do so many people feel that prejudice towards some people is so politically correct? I have met quite a few Texans and have never met a Jed Clampett or Snuffy Smith. Those are called stereotypes!
So called liberals can be some of the biggest bigots out there at times.

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Originally posted by analomaxxx:
My boyfriend is black and he has cruised on many lines. we plan to cruise this summer taking his parents with us and they too are seasoned cruisers!

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