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kfleming
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posted 08-10-2000 12:51 AM      Profile for kfleming   Email kfleming   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just found this site and I love it, it is so helpful and that's what I need.
I am planning my parents 25th wedding anniversary honeymoon and I am stuck. I have narrowed it down to Carnival's Destiny or RC Explorer, but have worries about both. I am concerned that on Explorer it will be too crowded(overkill of kids) and oddly enough too busy. Vacation is supposed to be to relax. Anyway, I am afraid Carnival will lack in service(b/c of size of both ships) and have too many drunk college kids.
Is it possible to find deck chairs somewhat close to a pool w/ this many people? My parents like to have fun, they are 41 & 42. Also my Mom really likes the itinerary on the Tropicale but I have read some really AWFUL things about this ship(my dad has never cruised, only once for mom). Any help, suggestions, opinions would be appreciated. Sorry for the length!

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 08-10-2000 06:42 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Although the Mega-ships carry a lot of people they useually offer more space per passenger than small ships. They can be full but feel 'uncrowded'! (I've got a posting about space ratios somewhere on this forum)

Mom and Dad are not old, but maybe HAL (Holland America) or Celebrity would be worth exploring? They both offer a more refined experience.


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sympatico
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posted 08-10-2000 06:50 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I too was going to suggest HAL or Celebrity. My husband and I started cruising way back for our 25th Anniversary on HAL and loved it. Mind you, in those days the ships were much smaller, 750 pax.
The Destiny is enormous - have only seen it in port and know nothing about RC Explorer.
We met a couple from CA on one of our HAL cruises who were celebrating their 25th and they were the same age as your folks. They had a great time, in fact we have sailed twice more with them and their folks.

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jwine
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posted 08-10-2000 09:09 AM      Profile for jwine   Email jwine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have sailed on the Destiny and also the Voyager. We had a horrible trip on the Voyager due to many, many unruly kids and RCI refusing to enforce rules. Have talked with RCI executives and they state, "the Voyager does attract families and lots of kids, their personnel now have been trained to speak with these unruly children", couldn't get a straight answer when I asked if the situation has improved. When we sailed on the Destiny, average age was mid-40's. As far as the college crowd, Carnival enforces its policy of "if you are 21 you must be in a cabin with someone 25 or older". So this really cuts down on the rowdy teen population. As far as service, food, etc. I felt the Destiny was as good as any RCI ship we have sailed on (7 of them), in fact we felt it was better than the Voyager, which we rated mediocre at best.
We have also sailed on HAL, about 10 years ago when we were mid-40's and the average age was about 75, food mediocre, service OK. After dinner the ship was empty. Not our favorite cruise line. If your afraid to try Carnival I would go with Princess (our all time favorite) or Celebrity.

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cruiselover
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posted 08-10-2000 10:19 AM      Profile for cruiselover     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that whether or not there are a lot of rowdy teenagers or children depends mainly on what time of year you go. If you go during the summer, spring break (it is often different from state to state), or Christmas holiday you are probably guaranteed a lot of kids. At other times of the year, they will all be in school. Also, in general, I think the longer itineries (10 days or more) attract more retired folks, just because they have more time and maybe more money.
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Mauretania
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posted 08-10-2000 01:35 PM      Profile for Mauretania     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I, too sailed on HAL several times over the years - the passenger blends varied greatly. I ahve seen the ship deserted after dinner, but just as often (out of 13 cruiese, 12 on ROTTERDAM V and one on NOORDAM) saw adults in the 30s/40s enjoying the evening activities until way past twelve. Kids and teens were rare but usually well behaved.

I have also sailed on Carnvial and think they offer the best value - good food, good choice of itineraries - although personally I am biased against the 100,000 tonenrs TOO big for me. A week seems too short a time to fully explore one of these vessels. I would suggest a FANTASY class ship on a seven day itinerary as a good first cruise. Carnival offers an excellent product. Don't book with an agent - book straight with Carnival. And after you've booked, keep calling them back every few weeks to see if there are any new promotions. If Carnival puts out a better fare on the accomodation you book, they will give you that price - but you have to ask for it. Sometimes you can get upgrades. There's no guarantee of this, but in six cruises I was able to get a better price or upgrade five times.

Also, if this is Dad's first cruise book them a MIDSHIPS cabin on the middle decks of the ship. You don't know if he will find sea motion uncomfortable, so get them a cabin that will feel the least motion. He should only try one of those verandah cabins on top of the ship after he knows how good a sailor he is! But I'm sure he'll have a great time!


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kfleming
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posted 08-10-2000 02:14 PM      Profile for kfleming   Email kfleming   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks so much for your help. I think I will explore a few more ships and lines before making a decision. I love reading all your posts! I am 23 and addicted to cruising already, I love it!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 08-10-2000 02:27 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes..keep an open mind. Have you checked the passenger ship reviews on this site?
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jwine
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posted 08-10-2000 02:47 PM      Profile for jwine   Email jwine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cruiselover - we did sail at a time that we felt all kids were in school, third week in Jan! Boy were we wrong.

Maurentania - you can book with a TA and still get a lower rate if one becomes available after you are booked, not only on Carnival but also on any cruiseline. Again, the TA has to ask for the price, but they get faxes and e-mails all the time and know when the rate has been lowered or if the cruiseline is offering upgrades.

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Patrick
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posted 08-11-2000 12:59 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you want to choose between Carnival and RCI, I´d choose RCI. I like better their style of cruising which is not that kind of huge party-ambiance as it is on Carnival ships. Further more the food will be better.
But it´s a matter of taste.
But go a bit further and try to look at some different lines as well, like Celebrity, Festival, Holland America or maybe NCL too.
The market is big enough, there are so many possibilities and each line has its good parts and its negative ones.

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Laura
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posted 08-13-2000 09:06 PM      Profile for Laura     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
kfleming,

My husband and I are also in our 20s and actually took our first 2 cruises with my parents! (It's their fault we're addicted now too!)

I've been on HAL, Princess and Royal Caribbean, and we definitely liked Royal Caribbean the best. Much more fun!!! (Princess was way too "stuffy" for us. HAL was alot of fun, but we still prefer RCI.) My parents just took their first Carnival last spring, and had a lot of complaints...don't get me wrong, they still had fun, but they said Carnival lacked in many areas that the other lines really excel in.

Also, we didn't feel crowded AT ALL on the Voyager. It was truly amazing! The only time it was crowded was around the pool, so you do have to stake out a lawn chair kind of early if you want a good spot. (But there were always chairs available.)

We thought the entertainment was FAR, FAR superior on RCI than on both the other lines. (I'm talking about ALL the entertainmet, from poolside activities and games, daily activities, nightly entertainment, etc... Much, much better.

And, there is really no motion at all on the Voyager. (I am very prone to motion sickness, and didn't have any problems on this ship.)


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gone2sea
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posted 08-13-2000 10:52 PM      Profile for gone2sea   Email gone2sea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
KFleming:

I think it is wonderful that you want to do this for your parents. When I am not working, I spend much time doing freelance travel photography on cruise-ships and have been on 24 cruises (15 assignments and 9 pleasure). For my money, I highly recommend Royal Caribbean based on my experiences with them. For comparison, my other experiences have been with NCL, P&O, Princess, Holland America, and Cunard. But I cannot recommend Voyager of the Seas to anyone for their first cruise because this series (Voyager, Explorer, etc.) is not a ship experience. Instead, Voyager is a huge floating block that focuses everyone on interior & exterior activities instead of being at sea. It has many limitations including slower speed than Legend class, being very difficult to dock in high wind conditions, and a passenger load that can be as high as 3,900 with all uppers filled. Add another 1,200 for the crew. (the only vessel that belongs at sea with 5,000+ people is an aircraft carrier). Instead I would try Rhapsody Of The Seas, Enchantment OTS, Vision OTS, or Grandeur OTS. These ships usually carry 1900 to 2000 pax and have a 2400 maximum. They are very comfortable, can visit more places because of their speed of 25 miles per hour (if needed) and smaller size, have 25 feet below the waterline for stability, and are still quite large at 915 feet long by 106 feet (panamax) wide. A cruise on one of these four will offer a first-timer plenty of options without paying the additional cost for Voyager (they charge more because of the novelty). As for the idea of having a more refined experience elsewhere, it is true that Holland America, Celebrity, and Princess will offer a more refined experience. But first see if your parents like to cruise before spending the extra money on refinements. Lastly, I am in the same age bracket as your parents and RCL has always hit the mark when I sail with them (1994, 1997, 1999).

Howard
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Sailing
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posted 08-14-2000 12:03 AM      Profile for Sailing   Email Sailing   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Kfleming, how very nice of you to treat your parents to a cruise. If they were in the 60-70 year age range, I would have suggested Holland America, but since they are in their 40's, I would highly recommend Celebrity. We have traveled on three of their ships, and the average age seems to be about 48. We rated each of the three outstanding in cleanliness, entertainment, food, and service. It's not the continual party atmosphere with announcements blaring about joining in on whatever fun is to be had as on Carnival, although one can certainly have fun. Celebrity's ships are highly rated as to value for price paid in all the cruising guidebooks. We would have to agree. What about a cruise to Bermuda and back from New York on the Zenith? Good luck!
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Mauretania
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posted 08-14-2000 03:42 PM      Profile for Mauretania     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
jwine - I guess it comes down to your agent - some ar more conscientious than others. If you have a good agent who takes good care of you, then I certainly wouldn't suggest abandoning them. Its been my personal experience, though, that some agents are less knowledgeable about ships than they should be. If you are an inexperienced cruiser that gets a poor agent, you may lose out on things like discounts, or get put on a ship that doesn't suit your personality.

Perhaps if you are a first time cruiser, it would be a good idea to ask for agent referrals from a group like this. And remember, you don't have to limit yourself to a local agent these days.


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Premier
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posted 08-14-2000 05:15 PM      Profile for Premier     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Regal Empress is nice for the price. I know somone who just came back from it and said she's a nice ship and decently priced.
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sympatico
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posted 08-14-2000 06:29 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See my post on Regal Empress. She is a budget ship, if that is what you want. When will you be deciding on which ship to take as my neighbour's son will be sailing on it shortly and if you can wait until I get a report from him, I will let you know.

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jasonalec
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posted 08-15-2000 04:27 PM      Profile for jasonalec   Email jasonalec   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Explorer is probably the way to go for a trip like this. There are a wide variety of activities for all ages and the ship has plenty of room, even though it has a large number of passengers. I've sailed the Voyager, Enchantment, Grandeur, and Grand Princess (P&o) and I am booked to sail Explorer during Christmas. My wife and I were going to try a Carnival ship but the people we have spoken to in various ports from Carnival ships were typically envious of the RCL ships and our experience with Grand Princess was dissapointing. The Voyager is the smoothest ship we have been on and the most fun. Hopefully, the Explorer will follow in her footsteps.
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kfleming
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posted 08-15-2000 04:58 PM      Profile for kfleming   Email kfleming   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you everyone for the suggestions!!

Laura and gone2sea, thanks for the depth! I sat down with my parents with brochures and some info & reviews from the internet and they have decided on Royal Caribbean Explorer OTS the last week of June '01. I discussed with them the kids, size of ship, itineraries, among other things and this is the one they liked(based on reviews of the Voyager). My parents are very active, like to have a few drinks and dance so hopefully it will be an experience they'll never forget!! The problem they had with the smaller ships is the lack(and cost)of private balconies on some ships. This is something they really want. My husband and I just sailed the western carib. on Enchantment & wanted to see new places so that elminated a lot of ships. Well, the decision has been made, I'm sure we'll have a great time. I think the biggest part of having an enjoyable cruise is what you make of it! Thanks again!


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Darlene
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posted 09-04-2000 07:20 PM      Profile for Darlene     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have you considered the Princess Line of ships. After all it is the Love Boat, and what a great way to spend an anniversary! Also suggest HAL. Both cruise lines are more refined and I think you'd enjoy them. Have a great holiday.
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