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M.S.Grumple
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posted 01-06-2001 10:18 AM      Profile for M.S.Grumple     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was disgusted to read in Sympatico's post about her Christmas cruise on the 'Veendam' being marred by vandalism.

I've been following her thread in the hopes of hearing that the culprits had been found and appropriately dealt with.

In the Cruise Lines forum I see that 2 people have now been identified as the offenders.

It must have taken quite a while for 2 people to throw out all of the teak chairs -quite noisy also I would think.

Where were the security personnel?


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sympatico
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posted 01-06-2001 11:02 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by M.S.Grumple:
I was disgusted to read in Sympatico's post about her Christmas cruise on the 'Veendam' being marred by vandalism.

I've been following her thread in the hopes of hearing that the culprits had been found and appropriately dealt with.

In the Cruise Lines forum I see that 2 people have now been identified as the offenders.

It must have taken quite a while for 2 people to throw out all of the teak chairs -quite noisy also I would think.

Where were the security personnel?


That's been one of the questions "where was security" because as you said it must have taken them quite a while to throw the ALL the chairs overboard. When I was first asked if I had heard any noises out on the deck, as we were on Lower Promenade, and then told they had lost all the chairs, I thought the plastic lounges on the Nav deck had blown overboard as we had been rolling during the night. I was shocked when told it was the wooden lounges.

No, two people have not been identified. Sorry if I gave this impression in the Cruise Lines forum. Must go back and see what I wrote and edit it.
They have a picture and name of a suspect, but this is now in the hands of Head Office and I doubt we will hear anything further.
New lounges will be delivered in a couple of weeks.
If I do hear anything more, I will keep you updated.


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Baker
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posted 01-06-2001 08:43 PM      Profile for Baker   Email Baker   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunatly, this is not a new thing, You would remember the old Union Castle Line from UK to Cape Town, Sth Africa. As it was a BUS route with a weekly service, there was always cups, plates,spoons, dishes etc dumped over the side rather than take them below, we reckoned if the Atlantic was to dry up there would be a mountain of crockery between Cape Town and Southhampton. I remember two KP's dumping the huge copper cooking pots in Sydney harbour once, rather than clean them, but they glistened on the sea bed alongside the ship and an officer on the bridge wing spotted them, and they were caught in the act. B
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K&K
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posted 01-06-2001 11:42 PM      Profile for K&K   Email K&K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am gulity of tossing something overboard! I guess it is wrong but we have an intimate stroll onboard and at the rear of the ship we toast and toss the glasses over. Maybe we will think of stopping this ritual. Kevin
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Green
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posted 01-06-2001 11:52 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tossing a glass and tossing a chair are very different things - I've tossed a glass or two in my day - I have no guilty feelings!
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Ryndam
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posted 01-08-2001 01:31 AM      Profile for Ryndam   Email Ryndam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If things haven't changed in the last few years, HAL does not have security guards on board patrolling the ships. There is only a Chief Security Officer, and all the other Deck Officers are staying at the gangway while ships are in port.

Ryndam


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Frank X. Prudent
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posted 01-08-2001 03:01 AM      Profile for Frank X. Prudent   Email Frank X. Prudent   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Capt Clarke C. Hawley of Str. DELTA QUEEN fame tells a story of how, as the Mate aboard the excursion steamer AVALON during the late Fifties, he put a quick stop to the excursionist whom thought it was their right to unscrew the show lights outlining the nosing of each of her three decks. These low-watt show bulbs would then be hurled at objects below by the culprits for the amusement of those aboard with equally low-wattage. A coating of Vaseline on the bulbs would stop the offenders dead handed before the bulbs could be removed! The same method is still in use today aboard the same boat, only today she's the BELLE OF LOUISVILLE.

I don't think this tried and true method will work with deck chairs, but it just shows there have been jerks for years. I sure hope that the guilty ones are found, and then made to pay for new teak chairs. They aren't cheap either!


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-08-2001 11:09 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:
Tossing a glass and tossing a chair are very different things - I've tossed a glass or two in my day - I have no guilty feelings!

Throwing anything off a ship is not good practice and certainly not very environmental! It probably equally illigal, be it a chair or a glass, especially as neither are your property! Imagine if everyone did it - that's a lot off glass. I think that you should feel a little bit guilty

However, there are worse crimes at sea!


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K&K
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posted 01-08-2001 01:23 PM      Profile for K&K   Email K&K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree that it is not a good practice and not environmental but, A couple of things you might take into consideration. The glasses are our property the bonvoyage package usually comes with a bottle of champagne two glasses (yours to keep) amoung other things. The other being to liken a couple of glasses to a couple of chairs is like comparing a cigarette butt to a gallon of oil I do not believe they are even close to being equal.
With that said I do have a little guilt and will not toss glasses over. I hope I have time to gain strength we leave in 10 days.
Kevin.
Any suggestions on some type of new environmental and legal ritual we might replace our old habit?

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Ascendancy
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posted 01-08-2001 03:10 PM      Profile for Ascendancy   Email Ascendancy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, there are worse crimes. But I have lost things overboard accidentally. One was a very cool hat I bought in Jamaica. It just about ruined tea time for me. Almost....

It was amazing how airborne that hat was able to get. If you walk up there on that top deck, you better hold onto that hat!


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Green
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posted 01-08-2001 09:01 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
O.K. I promise never to throw a glass overboard again - I was a mad and giddy youth!

Ascendancy - Buy a Tilley Hat - there's a secret pocket for your name and address - the hat is guaranteed to float and (hopefully) someone will find it and return it to you.

There are documented stories of hats being swallowed by elephants and later retreived - still wearable - after washing of course!

Tilley Endurables - there's a Web Site - http://www.tilley.com/index1.asp

Happy cruisin'


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Jesse C
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posted 01-14-2001 01:03 AM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is bad it throw something overboard, because it might sway back to the ship and ignite. I threw ice out, but it is just frozen water!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-14-2001 06:27 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by K&K:
Any suggestions on some type of new environmental and legal ritual we might replace our old habit?

K&K, You could always try 'spitting' over the side like in the Titanic movie. It's bio-degradeable, but unfortunately not so romantic!

JesseC, that ice might one day grow into an iceberg and sink a ship?


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Guest
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posted 01-14-2001 09:04 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was on QE2 in 1998 I took a walk on the deck at night and at the back of the boat deck behind the life pod crane there
was this guy (about 20 I guess) throwing what looked to be Cunard cruise guides over the side and giggling... when he saw me he
got out a cigarette and pretended to be out for a late nite smoke... that was strange.

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K&K
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posted 01-14-2001 09:17 AM      Profile for K&K   Email K&K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm: My wife (Kathy) is pretty game for just about anything but, would probabally draw the line at spitting. Maybe when we were younger.
Thanks for the suggestion though
Kevin

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PK
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posted 01-14-2001 09:54 PM      Profile for PK     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ascendancy, I, too, lost a great hat at sea. In fact, when in the Caribbean, I was asked by a vendor to trade it for one of his store items. I declined. The following cruise, a gust of wind took it right my head when on deck. It's final resting place is now at the bottom of the Bora Bora lagoon!
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