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andizz
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posted 01-26-2001 06:57 PM      Profile for andizz   Email andizz   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
does your mobile phone really interfere with the navigation equipment on the ship of is it just a scam to make you use their $10 a minute sattelite phones??
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jwine
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posted 01-26-2001 07:09 PM      Profile for jwine   Email jwine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just got off the Inspiration and didn't see hear anything about it bothering their navigation equipment - someone said the cell phones would cost about $11 a minute while on the ship, don't know if that is true or not, saw several people using theirs, they said they had roaming services, but I think they didn't realize that it is only for the US and not International. They might even have a program for International, I don't really know for sure.
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WJCdiver
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posted 01-26-2001 07:41 PM      Profile for WJCdiver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only problem with cell phones on a ship is that you need a "cell site" using compatible technology to have it work. There are about 5 different technologies in use in the United States today, although a number of phones are compatilble with more than one.

The way cell phones work is that when your phone is on it regularly transmits a message that says basically I am here. The range of a cell phone is usually only a couple of miles, (less in big cities). A cell phone only has about 1/2 watt or less of power as a transmitter. The cellular company has lots of small cell sites (very small reciever transmitters) around the service area. Basically every couple of miles to get continous coverage. These are all coordinated by computer. As you move from one cell site to another the computer keeps track of where you are.

Because the ship does not have a cell site on board, and there are none at sea, cell phones are useless at sea. In port, depending upon the technology at use in the port you may be able to use your cell phone.

There is no danger to using a cell phone on a ship at sea. But it won't work.

Bill


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joe at travelpage
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posted 01-26-2001 08:57 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's another little secret - there is no evidence that cell phones interfere with navigation equipment on airlines either. The prohibition of their use is due to airline (and maybe cellular operators) policy rather than any risk to communication or navigation.

Click here for more info about the subject

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Ryndam
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posted 01-27-2001 03:33 AM      Profile for Ryndam   Email Ryndam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mobile phones do not interfere with the navigation equipment, and I've never heard that they are prohibited on ships. Of course they are useless at sea, where no signals can be picked up, but thedy are widely used while ships are in port.

Ryndam


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FireBadge1
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posted 01-27-2001 07:40 AM      Profile for FireBadge1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey Bill.....an excellent explanation......wish more people would understand this!!
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WJCdiver
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posted 01-27-2001 10:46 AM      Profile for WJCdiver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fire - Thank you.

My understanding of why cell phones are banned is 3 reasons.

First - Safety
There is no evidence of interference but why should the airline risk it.

Second - The airline makes money off of those
on-board telephones.

Third - I have heard that even 0.3 watts covers a lot of ground from 30,000 feet. Supposedly you move so quickly through cell sites (at 500 mph) and cover multiple cell sites so that the computer can't keep track of where you are and bill you.

Not sure about the third. But Number 2 is all the airlines really need.

Bill


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CTrail
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posted 01-27-2001 05:26 PM      Profile for CTrail     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are basically correct Bill. You would be triggering hundreds of cells at a time and the signal level difference between them would be minimal to say the least so for billing purposes things would be very confusing and they would probably have to scrap the bill. They would not be able to bill from two sites at the same time, never mind sixty or seventy. The handoffs from one site to another would go crazy.

Go for it, the main reason they don't want you using your own cell phone is that the airline can't get their cut from your private phone bill. If they were affected by cell phone frequencies, you wouldn't be able to have cells near airports. That just isn't so.

Saveyourmoney,useyourcell.

Peter


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saltydog28
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posted 01-28-2001 10:09 AM      Profile for saltydog28   Email saltydog28   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello Everyone,
In regards to cell phone use, I am going to
Alaska. I live on the east coast. Could I call home? Does anyone know what the roaming charge would be? I am assuming the airwaves go across Canada, would that be an international call?
I know I should leave it home. But what if there is a delay at the airport?
Thanks for the help.
Pat.

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CTrail
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posted 01-28-2001 02:43 PM      Profile for CTrail     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Saltydog28

Cell phones work on a relay basis. That is they relay their signals from one cell area to another cell area. They have to travel through repeaters. Only if there is a link between cells, in other words the cells have to be within about 30 miles of each other, would you be able to connect to your home from Alaska.
Even if you could do it, which I doubt, you would be going through Canada and yes that would be an international call. Remember, cell phones are basically line of sight communications devices.

Haveanicetripanyway.

Peter


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Green
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posted 01-28-2001 09:26 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heaven forbid that any airline allow cell phones on flights - too many users are totally inconsiderate of other theatre goers, restaurant diners, bookstore browsers - public transport etc.etc - I could go on! Just imagine one sitting next to you on a long haul flight....they are usually incapable of speaking quietly, preferring that everyone hear the conversation ...please no cell phones in the air..
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jmfleser
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posted 01-30-2001 03:23 PM      Profile for jmfleser   Email jmfleser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My phone is both analog and digital. I tried mine from inside the ship this weekend while in the Bahamas. Although I was on analog roaing it still worked.

Joan


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sympatico
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posted 01-30-2001 04:34 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:
Heaven forbid that any airline allow cell phones on flights - too many users are totally inconsiderate of other theatre goers, restaurant diners, bookstore browsers - public transport etc.etc - I could go on! Just imagine one sitting next to you on a long haul flight....they are usually incapable of speaking quietly, preferring that everyone hear the conversation ...please no cell phones in the air..

On our recent flight from Cleveland to San Juan PR, chap across the aisle and 2 rows in front of us was on the planes cell phone for practically the whole flight - 4+ hrs. We couldn't hear him, but then the noise from the engines probably drowned him out.


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Steve Read (sread)
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posted 01-30-2001 08:30 PM      Profile for Steve Read (sread)   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Read (sread)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wish ships would ban those little walkie-talkies people are taking on board more and more. Or at least, temporarily confiscate them and rip out the thing that makes them go diddle-dee at the end of every sentence.
When cellphones first came out, the most irritating thing in the world to overhear was someone yelling: "I'm on a train."
Now it's: "I'm at the pool bar, 10-4."
Grrrrr!

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Green
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posted 01-31-2001 06:20 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cell phones, walkie-takies, etc. should all be banned from public areas.

The majority of smokers, and I was one, were courteous and either refrained or asked permission to smoke when others were in close proximity.......no such consideration from the cell phone, walkie-talkie addicts.

Sympatico, you were lucky being two rows behind and across the aisle - you would have to strain to listen over cabin noise.


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bmajor
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posted 01-31-2001 07:36 PM      Profile for bmajor   Email bmajor   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The last time we saw many cell phones being used was on Norwegian Star, anchored in the middle of Sydney Harbour as part of the Australia Day celebrations..The only problem seemed to be that the cruise directors microphone kept screeching..which he blamed on the phones!! Whether that's possible or not I don't know.
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gohaze
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posted 02-01-2001 06:32 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi...it was in the news recently that the Swiss Authorities have implicated cell phone usage in the crash of a, I think it was Crossair, Saab 340.
...peter

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