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PauloMestre
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posted 04-09-2001 04:28 PM      Profile for PauloMestre   Email PauloMestre   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Source: Seatrade Insider website

It’s official: Fred. Olsen buys Crown Dynasty
09/04/01

At last, Fred. Olsen is getting a third ship: the 800-passenger Crown Dynasty. Laid up in Aruba since Commodore Holdings Ltd.'s filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in late December, Dynasty will transfer to Fred. Olsen in May, Nigel Lingard tells Seatrade Insider. Ganger Rolf and Bonheur (both publicly quoted Fred. Olsen companies in Oslo) will pay £52m for the 1993-built vessel and for refurbishments to be carried out at a North European yard (still to be named). Fred. Olsen Cruise Lines Ltd. in the UK will then operate the Dynasty under charter, initially from the UK on itineraries yet to be announced. Lingard anticipates only minor renovations will be needed to brand the ship as part of the Fred. Olsen fleet: ‘Our technical boys are still looking at her, but we don’t anticipate anything major. She’s in pretty good shape.' The company, which also operates the Black Watch and Black Prince, has been searching for a third ship for many months. ‘We continue to enjoy our most successful year to date, and the good news is that it’s not just about volume, it’s about yields as well,’ Lingard says. He adds that unlike their US counterparts, UK cruise lines are performing well in 2001: ‘I don’t think anybody is struggling. The market has held up better here than in the US.’

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Source: Lloyds List website

Olsen lands his third cruiseship
Tuesday April 10 2001

Fred Olsen Cruise Lines has finally found the third ship it has been seeking for at least three years.

The UK-based company has paid £52m ($76.4m) for Commodore Cruise Line’s eight-year-old vessel Crown Dynasty .

The cost includes an extensive refurbishment in a European shipyard which has still to be chosen. Commodore went into Chapter XI bankruptcy in the US at the end of last year.

The 800-berth ship will join Black Watch and Black Prince and raise Olsen’s fleet capacity by 55% to 2,240 berths. Managing director, Paul Brigginshaw admitted that the search for the third ship had taken a long time. “But we are extremely pleased with the result,” he said.

Olsen carries about 20,000 passengers a year, most of them British. It concentrates on the Mediterranean and Scandinavia, but also goes to South America.

Next year it is taking the unusual step of basing a series of cruises on Cuba, a move only made possible by Mr Olsen’s strong Spanish ferry connections.

Fred. Olsen expects to have Crown Dynasty cruising this summer and intends to publish her itinerary shortly. The company uses both Dover and Southampton as base ports for its ships.

It is understood that Mr Olsen himself has taken a particular interest in finding a third ship for his cruise line.

Commodore was formerly owned by Silja Line, the Baltic ferry operator, and still owes that company $28m on two ships.

Regards

Paulo Mestre


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-09-2001 04:53 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Paulo, I've been following this story with interest.



Crown Dynasty
Entered Service: July 1993
Gross Tonnage: 19,089
Total Crew: 320
Passenger Capacity (basis 2): 802
(All berths): 916
Total Cabins:401
Cabins Outside:277
Cabins Inside:124
Cabins with balcony:10
Cabins (Wheelchair Acces.):4
Dining Room:1
Casino:Yes
Outdoor Pool:1
Whirlpools:3
Fitness Centre:Yes
Suana/Steam:Yes

A short review: http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/ships/cn_dynas.asp

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Willy Paul
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posted 04-09-2001 05:07 PM      Profile for Willy Paul     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We were on her sister ship the Crown Jewel and thought to many passengers were packed on the ship. It could use about 100 people less. there were lines everywhere. It was a lovely ship but we thought the cabins were on the small size with limited storage space. To say that we were not impressed would be pretty true.

but all these things can be fixed with some additional work.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-09-2001 05:20 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Olsen's passengers like intimate ships. Many of them prefer the Black Prince (11,209), to the Black Watch (28,492) as they regard the latter as a little too big! Dynasty at 19,089 Tons in size, falls nicely in between Olsen's two other ships.

Willy, I must agree that Dynasty's space ratio's of 23.8 - 20.8 are not over impressive, being more typical of a budget ship/line. (Olsen's prices are a little higher than 'budget').

In fact Dynasty's gross tonnage is approximately 9000 tons less than that of the Black Watch, yet her passenger capacity is very similar! However, Olsen may decide not to sell all the berths, which will reduce the capacity?

On the other hand, Dynasty's space ratios are similar to those of the ever popular Black Prince?

I wonder what they will rename her?

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posted 04-09-2001 06:10 PM      Profile for Beezo   Author's Homepage   Email Beezo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey,
Well i guess this is good news! I guess his plan for having all of the Royal Viking Sisters will be delayed for a little while.

To tell you the truth, i would really like to see Star take the current Norwegian Star, and the other sister (not the Black Watch) and have those ships go to Orient Line, or just start completely with a whole new line. I have never sailed on any of those ships or with that line, but apparently, from what i have learned, it was great....

Brian


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-09-2001 06:26 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Willy Paul:
We were on her sister ship the Crown Jewel ...

What became of this ship?


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gohaze
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posted 04-09-2001 07:23 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi...Crown Jewel is now the Superstar Gemini.

I doubt that Star will transfer the Norwegian Star to Orient. They are getting the ex Europa next year as the Ocean Voyager, so that will be giving them plenty to look after. They wanted them to take her this year but there was just way too much work to be done on the Crown Odyssey after NCL had finished running her into the ground.
BTW..they're doing a great job on that ship, she is spotless now. We met a couple who had been on her when she was Royal Cruise originally and liked her. Then they did a trip on her before she was transferred to Orient and they said she was dirty, the food was awful and the service non-existant. Now they're going again, they're happy.
.....peter


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
Hi...Crown Jewel is now the Superstar Gemini.



Thanks Peter! Superstar Geminin:

http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/ships/sr_gemini.asp

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Colin
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posted 04-11-2001 04:06 AM      Profile for Colin   Email Colin   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whatever happened to the third Crown ship, Crown Monarch?

I know that Cunard planned to take her along with the other two but I'm fairly certain certain that didn't happen. Or if it did, they got rid of her within a month or so.

Colin.


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gohaze
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posted 04-11-2001 06:34 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Colin...she is called the Walrus and cruises out of Singapore, have seen her there a couple of times.
...peter

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Colin
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Thanks Peter,

Do you know if she ever sailed for Cunard?

Regards, Colin.


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