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Jesse C
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posted 09-05-2001 07:16 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, the Travelpage prereview never said anything about classes, but cabin categories, and five of them!!!
One kind are the Duplex Apartments that hang over the stern so people can watch the sea.

I think they should build not only the Queen Mary 2... maybe use the Caronia, Elizabeth, Kassia, and Queens class vessels.

For the Queen Elizabeth 2:
- Eliminate classes and set up cabin categories
- Eliminate the old lifeboats and make classic orange and white lifeboats with two tenders per side and a speedboat per side.

Cunard Plan:
* Short Cruise Frequency is 2/3
* Long Cruise Frequency is 1/3

Queens Class
- Built in the Alstom Chantiers D' L Atlantique Yards in Saint Nazaire, France
- Named after English, Irish, and Scottish Queens

Queens cruise to:
Short> Liverpool and Southhampton
Long> Oban, Belfast, Dun Laoghaire (Dublin), Greenock, Liverpool, Cobh (Cork), Plymouth, Guernsey, Southhapmton, Harwich (London), Dover (London), Calais, Cherbourg, Le Havre (Paris), and Santander

- Queen Elizabeth 3, New York Manhattan Service
- Queen Mary 2, New York Manhattan Service
- Queen Victoria, New York Brooklyn Service
- Queen Boudiccia, Philadelphia/Camden Service
- Queen Lady Jane, Boston Service
- Queen Anne, Portland, Maine Service
- Queen Margaret, Montréal, Québec City, St. John, and Saint Pierre Service
- Mary Queen of Scots, Montréal, Québec City, and Halifax Service

Kassia Class
- Built in Harland & Wolff in Belfast, Northern Ireland, Great Britian
- Named after past Cunard Liners, idea developed by a Cruisetalker named Cunard.

If it originates in the United States:
Short> Southhampton
Long> Cobh (Cork), Plymouth, Guernsey, Southhampton, Harwich (London), and Dover (London)

If it originates in Mexico or Panama:
Short> Southhampton
Long> Mindelo, Dakar, Casablanca, Cadiz (Seville), Lisbon, Vigo, Santander, Le Havre (Paris), Cherbourg, Calais, Dover (London), Harwich (London), and Southhampton

- Caronia 4, Norfolk and Baltimore Service
- Mauretania 3, Galveston, New Orleans, Tampa, Key West, Fort Lauderdale, and Nassau Service
- Brittania 2, New York/M Service
- Aquitania 2, Cape Canaveral Service
- Georgic 2, Newport News Service
- Kassia, Charleston Service
- Scotia 2, Panama, Cancun, Veracruz and Havana Service
- Majestic 2, Miami and Nassau Service
- Berengaria 2, Panama, Veracruz, Cancún, San Juan, and Saint Thomas Service
- Olympic 2, Savannah Service
- Carpathia 2, Tampico, Cancún, San Juan, and Saint Thomas Service

Elizabeth Class
- Built in Brown & Clydebank in England, Great Britian

Short Queens Class Service
- Queen Elizabeth 2, New York Service

Caronia Class
- Built in Brown & Clydebank in England, Great Britian
Short Kassia Class Service
- Caronia 3, Fort Lauderdale and Nassau Service

<Once every year, a random Cunard Liner, even on a regular TransAntlantic basis will be selected to perform a long cruise.
Kassia Class, QE2, and Caronia 3 will run through the Panama and Suez Canals

Queens Class will cross Straight of Magellan and Cape of Good Hope.>

The QE3 will enter service when QE2 is phased out, and so on.

Costa Plan:
ms CostaMediterranea:
Short: Lisbon, Genoa, Piraeus, and Istanbul
Long: St. Cruz de Tenerife, Lanzarote, Horta, Ponta Delgada, Funchal, Agadir, Lisbon, Casablanca, Cadiz (Seville), Ceuta, Gibraltar, Ibiza, Palma de Mallorca, Malaga, Motril, Barcelona, La Coruna, Almeria, Ajaccio, Marsielle, Monte Carlo, Le Verdon, Genoa, Livorno (Florence and Pisa), Civitavecchia (Rome), Naples, Palermo, Messina, Valetta, Loutraki, Bari, Venice, Dubrovnik, Katakolon (Olympia), Heraklion, Santorini, Rhodes, Samos, Myoknos, Pithagorio, Piraeus (Athens), Kusadasi (Ephesus), and Istanbul

ms CostaAtlantica and ms CostaFortuna:
Short: Lisbon and Genoa
Long: St. Cruz de Tenerife, Lanzarote, Horta, Ponta Delgada, Funchal, Agadir, Lisbon, Casablanca, Cadiz (Seville), Ceuta, Gibraltar, Ibiza, Palma de Mallorca, Malaga, Motril, Barcelona, La Coruna, Almeria, Ajaccio, Marsielle, Monte Carlo, Le Verdon, and Genoa

- CostaMediterranea, New York City/Manhattan Service
- CostaAtlantica, Boston Service
- CostaFortuna, Fort Lauderdale, Half Moon Cay, and Nassau, Service

<Magica and Victoria do a short TransAtlantic when switching between Caribbean and Europe. Magica follows the Long Mediterranea routine, Victoria follows Atlantica routine. Magica will depart from New York, Victoria from Fort Lauderdale.

The CostaAtlantica, CostaMeditteranea, and CostaFortuna are on TransAtlantic 24/7

Holland-America Service (Dutch):
Short: Southhampton, Antwerp, and Amsterdam
Long: Cobh (Cork), Plymouth, Guernsey, Southhampton, Harwich (London), Dover (London), Calais, Antwerp (Brussels), Rotterdam, and Amsterdam

- Oosterdam, New York/Manhattan Service
- Zuiderdam, Boston Service
- Amsterdam, Fort Lauderdale Service

<The other TransAtlantic cruises won't be listed>

How do you think Malcolm, Ryndam, Joe, Sympatico, all the rest?

Note: I know that there isn't a Queen Elizabeth three yet, but hey, it is just an idea...

How do ya like it?

[ 09-10-2001: Message edited by: Jesse C ]


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M.S.Grumple
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posted 09-06-2001 09:10 AM      Profile for M.S.Grumple     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jesse, don't you have any homework to do?
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posted 09-06-2001 01:15 PM      Profile for dockside   Email dockside   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
M.S.Grumple, Please don't be hard on Jesse. Haven't you ever heard the expression, "Out of the mouths of babes"? You never know, there may be an exceptional idea buried in the ideas of this or some other youth.
Jesse, seeing Europe for the first time from the deck of a liner on the Western approaches would be a trill. However today, Trans-Atlantic service is more a novelty vacation than a mode of transportation. Not enough people have the extra 5 to 7 days for even sailing one way on vacation. The ships you site need to be 80% full to break even on their operating cost. Have a heart for the people who run these companies and must answer to the stockholders.

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posted 09-06-2001 05:30 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of course, not all of these ships could do Atlantic service 24/7. They would also take up iteneraries throughout the world. And only a few would cruise the Atlantic full time.

Queen Mary 2, Brittania, Mauretania 3, Queen Boudiccia, and Queen Lady Jane would have it full service, while their fleetmates join them on busier seasons.

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Jesse C ]


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Hey!! Woah I haven`t been here for ages - Year 12 is taking up so much time!! (Finals for school)

Jesse - thanks for remembering my design!! Jochen and myself worked quite hard perfecting the Kassia.

But I think it would be wonderful to see her on the oceans. You are right, not all Cunarders should / are on the atlantic 24/7 it would be nice to see this brand of cruising reach all corners of the world.

Its nice to see you have worked out a route for Kassia to serve.

Cunard.

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FYI... Kassia homepage is here.

Cunard.

[ 09-09-2001: Message edited by: Cunard ]


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posted 09-07-2001 07:23 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I even modified his original Kassia to make the Mauretania, Auqitania 2, and Brittania 2.

He even presented it to Cunard Line, and they may make a smaller flettmate line to the Queen series.

The Queens cruise from northern cities and Canada, Kassia from the south, Bahamas, Cuba, and Mexico.


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posted 09-08-2001 12:10 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh yea, these also are TransAtlantic Cruises on an Ocean Liner, bevause these ships pick up passengers at as many ports they cross as they can.

Before it goes to Genoa, the Costa ships have to go to many ports in Portugal and Spain.

Before La Havre, the Cunard Queens ave to pass Ireland and England first.


Also, all cabin categories are welcome to all areas of the ship, but the Steerage (not tourist) have to get a medical exam and a lot of shots before they board the ship.


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posted 09-08-2001 04:13 PM      Profile for titanicsteve   Email titanicsteve   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this a real ship? Or is it an idea??? If it is an idea well done to the drawers and book me tickets for the first sailing lolol
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posted 09-08-2001 06:06 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Kassia is an idea that was submitted to Carnival Corporation for use in the Cunard Line
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posted 09-08-2001 09:37 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Routes that the Cunard Liners do when they are not doing Transatltanic:

Queens Class

- Queen Elizabeth 3
Eastbound Pacific from Sydney, Panama Canal from Los Angeles or Tampico, Mexican Riviera from Galveston or Tampico, East Coast from Galveston, Miami, or New York Manhattan

- Queen Victoria, West Coast Africa from Southhampton or Lagos, Trans Cape of Good Hope from Lagos or Dar Es Saalem. Eastern Africa from Dar Es Saalem or Karachi, Mediterranean from Southhampton, Lisbon, and Genoa, Trans-Red Sea from Genoa, Istanbul, or Karachi, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, and Pakistan from Karachi and Goa

- Queen Anne
Western Africa from Southhampton and Lisbon

- Queen Margaret
Northern Canada, Greenland, and Iceland from Saint Johns

- Mary Queen of Scots
New England and Canada from Halifax

Kassia Class (Built in Britian or France)

Named after past Cunard Liners, idea developed by a Cruisetalker named Cunard.

- Caronia 4
Eastern Carribean from Miami

- Aquitania 2
Bahamas from Cape Canaveral

- Georgic 2
Bermuda from Newport News (from Tenders if allowed, may not meet strict requirements)

- Kassia
Charleston and Miami to Mexican Riviera and South America

- Scotia 2
Asia from Yokohama, TransPacific from Yokohama, Honolulu, or Los Angeles, Hawaii from Maui, Panama Canal from Los Angeles or Tampico, Mexican Riviera from Galveston or Tampico, East Coast from Galveston, Miami, or New York Manhattan

- Majestic 2
Alaska from Los Angeles and Seattle, Panama Canal from Los Angeles or Tampico, Mexican Riviera from Galveston or Tampico, East Coast from Galveston, Miami, or New York Manhattan

- Berengaria
Northern Europe from Southhampton, Le Havre, or Amsterdam

- Olympic 2
Mediterranean from Southhampton, Lisbon, and Genoa, Trans-Red Sea from Genoa, Istanbul, or Karachi, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, and Pakistan from Karachi and Goa

- Carpathia 2
Mediterranean from Southhampton, Lisbon, and Genoa

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Jesse C ]


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posted 09-08-2001 09:48 PM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While the seven Queens ships get built at the Alstom Chantiers D'l Aatlantique in Saint Nazaire, France..

..the eleven Kassia Class Ships (no pun intended) get built at the Harland & Wolff Shipward in Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.


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posted 09-09-2001 12:53 AM      Profile for Jesse C   Email Jesse C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey Cunard, I took the Kassia and modifying it by adding tenders and liferafts as well as a few flags, and making the paint coat reminiscent of the QE2.

The color of the lifeboats are different, orange, except for the tenders. They are now red and white like the Carnival Spirit has them. I added a glass panel for the atrium and the portholes for the lower decks.

I also hung flags of the United States, Britian, Ireland, Cuba, Mexico, and the Bahamas on the line between the crow's next and the funnel.

I will e-mail it to ya soon, Cunard.


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I am so glad to hear you enjoyed editing my ship.
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So how didja like the Kassia with the new coat of paint, portholes, flags, and more modifications?
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I looked at TransAtlantic routes, and that added a lot of Ports in the Costa Italian Route I mapped.
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