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north
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posted 04-09-2002 01:01 PM      Profile for north        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am close to booking an Alaska cruise but can't decide between Holland America's Zaandam and Royal Caribbean's Radiance of the Seas. Any comments on either ship are welcomed but I need the info ASAP. Thanks.
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Britanis
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posted 04-09-2002 01:24 PM      Profile for Britanis   Email Britanis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Forgive me if I sound narrow-minded, but RCCL vs. HAL is not much of a conflict. When confronted with such a decision, just go with Holland-America! Royal Caribbean was a good product once, HAL is an excellent product now! A cruise on the ZAANDAM is by all means the better choice. Although I am sure you would havce a great time on either line, HAL is far and away the better of the two.
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Jamaica Jeff
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posted 04-09-2002 01:32 PM      Profile for Jamaica Jeff     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have you considered Princess? They offer several differant land and sea packages. They also offer five ships to choose from. Have fun!
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gohaze
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posted 04-09-2002 02:36 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A lot depends on whether you are just doing the cruise or are extending it in Alaska or Canada.
Because if so, then you should also consider Princess which probably has the best ground programs.
...peter

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jeffrossatsea
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posted 04-09-2002 03:32 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
....i believe that holland america is the best bet...had a tour on the "volendam" last year....beautiful ship......but if a land package is to be added....go princess....get the princess tour alaska kit....totally packed....even give you a detailed map of alaska...with the brochure of course...jeff
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cruiseny
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posted 04-09-2002 04:07 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

I agree that if you want to take a land tour to Alaska or the Canadian Rockies you probably would be best with Princess. Thier land-based programs in Alaska are first rate.

If you're looking just for a cruise, I'd probably reccomend either Princess, Holland America, or Celebrity. They each have their own way of doing things, and one of the three should suit your style most. Service is good on all three. Princess has the widest range of entertainment, and Celebrity the most cutting-edge. The food on Celebrity is the most sophisticated, and is designed by Michelin chef Michel Roux. But Princess has more alternate options, including the choice to forego tradtional two-seating dining on some ships altogether. You'll find the cabins on Holland America to be the most spacious.

The biggest difference between the three is in the ship itself. Holland America's ships are safe, solid, and predictable. They have lots of small bars and lounges, and very traditional, almost dim decor, with, on some ships, the odd misplaced design experiment. Celebrity, on the other hand, has very striking interiors, with bold colors, expensive modern art, and striking design features at every turn. Princess' ships are beautiful, but is the most mainstream of the three with lots of marble, brass, wood, and leather - anything you'd find in your average big-city luxury hotel.

You may notice that I've left out Royal Caribbean. I've done this deliberately, as anything they do someone else does better. They are mediocre, average, no more. Considering the huge selection of ships in Alaska, I wouldn't choose them at all. There are simply better choices, especially since Royal Caribbean's food is generally abysmal. If you like the way their ships look, try Princess who have very similar design and decor, but with much better food, etc. at about the same price.

I urge you to take a look at the 360 degree tours of the ships you're considering here for a general impression of the design of the different ships.

If you have any more questions, post here. Regardless of your choice, let us know what you've chosen, and have a great trip.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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sympatico
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posted 04-09-2002 05:02 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am surprised that everyone voted for Princess land tours. I thought HAL was tops in this area as I believe they have been in Alaska for a long time, own many hotels, trains, boats, etc. Could be that they are more expensive in the land tours, but never having taken one, I really can't comment. Have only done the Inside Passage on the Rotterdam V, back in 1988 - wonderful trip.
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cruiseny
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posted 04-10-2002 10:38 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

Sympatico, I do understand your loyalty to HAL, but you must give Princess credit in this category. Both Princess and Royal Caribbean/Celebrity have much newer rail cars than HAL (HAL were the only ones back in 1988!), and Princess are the only ones that own their own, new (all from past ten years or so, some literally just opened) luxury hotels at all the major attractions. Princess are tops in this area. I did not take a land tour in AK, but Princess Tours (the land tour company) do operate all the shore operations for Princess in Alaska, so I got a good feel for them. A very high-quality company, outstanding guides etc. Princess probably have the best land tours in most destinations, but in Alaska there is no competition, although RCCL/Celebrity are making a lot of progress.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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Frank X. Prudent
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posted 04-10-2002 05:56 PM      Profile for Frank X. Prudent   Email Frank X. Prudent   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have traveled on Holland America Line, Princess, and Royal Caribbean. I am also a stockholder in each of the above or their parent company. All three have a good to excellent product, but time and money prevent me from going on all three again. So what ship would I go on? It's the ZAANDAM handsdown, thank you.

I enjoyed my recent Wayfarer cruise on her. I think that the service, and room were tops! The food was as good as the other two lines if not a tad better overall. Then there are the little things that all add up such as a string quartet that plays regularly during the trip, the food in the Marco Polo Restaurant was truly excellent, perhaps the finest I have ever had at sea! Also the ZAANDAM is a very easy ship to get around. Her elevators were efficient and the ship's mid-size and passenger count contributes to the overall ease of transiting the vessel.

Which ever cruise you go on, let us know and tell us how it went.


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William
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posted 04-11-2002 07:14 PM      Profile for William   Email William   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was on RCCL's Vision of the Sea a couple of years ago. And what I can tell you is I truly enjoy the experience and service that they provided. Furthermore, Misty Fjord is truly amazing and I don't think Holland America goes there.
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BenBen
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posted 04-11-2002 10:04 PM      Profile for BenBen     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am booked on Carnival Spirit on the July 3 NB cruise...I noticed nobody even mentioned Carnival. I assume for the younger crowd, it may be the better option in Alaska??? For the budget minded, I booked a balcony cabin midship for about $1,000/couple less than Princess, RCI or Celebrity.

Any thoughts on the Spirit?...did I make a mistake?...keep in mind, I am 30 years old, this is my 11th cruise...so I pretty much know what each line has to offer.


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cruiseny
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posted 04-11-2002 10:40 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

No, I don't think that Carnival Spirit is bad at all. I myself am probably not the target audience for Carnival, but I would try them, and as you know what Carnival are all about, I don't think you should find them objectionable. It should be noted that Carnival own Holland America Tours, fka Westours, so I gather they use them for their own ships in Alaska as well... Westours are probably the second-best Alaska operator after Princess...

Personally, I think Princess is still about the best in Alaska. If you think they carry mostly geriatrics, in Alaska you'll find a younger than average crowd for Princess, HAL, or Celebrity, average for RCCL, and probably older than real Carnival partiers... Anyway, there should be plenty of people your age on any of the said ships. Competition between all five and NCL as well are about equal in Alaska, with very little distinction between "Premium" and "Standard" cruise lines - in fact less than just about anywhere else, in price, fellow passengers, and product.

To answer your final question, no, I don't think you've made a mistake. I think you'll have a great trip, so don't fret over your choice at all...

By the way, if your cabin should happen to be a Category 8B, you will most likely have a partially obstructed view. Some (if not all) Carnival brochures fail to note this... Also, check out a great photo gallery on Spirit by clicking here and selecting "Helsinki Carnival Spirit Inside" (interior pictures) and "Helsinki Carnival Spirit" (exterior pictures) from the drop-down menu on the left. Thanks to Tero Soderholm for providing the great pictures.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY

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