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German Workers are well educated, disciplined, work hard and for Quality.
The Region in which Meyer is, has an Structure-Problem, the Meyer Shipyard is the biggest Employer and guarantees an lot of Jobs.
The People there can not choose under an big Number of good Companies, like in Munich or Stuttgart. So, they will earn Tarif Wages, but the Wages in that Region are not the highest in Germany and i am not sure, if they get a lot of "EXTRAS".
Anyway anyone out there who knows about the wages please join in.Thanks
The difference between building cruise ships in the US and Europe.... the European shipyards do get subsidies.......we haven't done too well here in the US with our subsidized building program!!Bottomline, I don't think American Shipyards can be cost competitive with our high overheads for insurance, etc. I remember all the lovely ships which were built in the 30's..... not an hour north of me....... the shipyard now in a disgraceful condition.... most of the great shipyards in New England are now gone.
Average wages for a skilled tradesman working in a European shipyard around £25,000 pa +. An average working week is between 35 and 37.5 hours with overtime paid after that at time and half. I do not know about the rest of Europe but UK ship yards workers are all in a union.
I had a couple of family members who worked for Cammell Lairds ship yard in Birkenhead, they specialised in building Royal Navy submarines, (the last being the nuclear powered HMS Unicorn) and war ships. As a result when the orders for these dried up the yard, at that time, had great difficulty in attracting orders for cruise ships as the skills required for building cruise ships are different from the skills needed to build war shipsA couple of years ago they did win and successfully complete a contract for the re-fit of Airtours 'Sunbird' and they should have completed a contract to lengthen the Costa Classica by adding a 26,000 ton mid section. It appears the Costa shipped turned back two thirds of the way to the ship yard and the work was never completed, effectively sealing the fate of the ship yard. The completed section though was launched and is now apparently for sale!As an aside issue Lairds were also rumoured to have been in the running for a contract to build two 28,000 ton luxury cruise ships for a Florida based company, but again this came to nothing.One great memory I had is that as a child I was invited to the launch of a ship by my uncle, who worked there as a boiler maker. The ship was called Sigleon and it was an old fashioned down the slipway into the Mersey launch. I was only about 8 or 9 at the time but I've never forgotten that day. I wonder if I'll see another.
It is the Question of the Qualification of the Worker, the Qualification makes the Money.
I think, they start at about 2000-2500 Euros/Dollars a Month, Working Time in Metal Industry in Germany is 35 Hours per Week.
I do not posess the Tarifs of Metal Industry, so i can not tell you exact.
Leading Positions are all payed outside the Tarif.
In Chemical Industry, we have Tarif Classes from 1 to 13, you are rated by the Job you do and your Quality.
A lot of Poeple are payed outside the Tarif, much more or less, if they have Jobs with low Qualification or their Employer is not Member of the Employers Union.
My Employer is Member of the Union, from Frankfurt (this is cheaper than Stuttgart or Munich for him. Frankfurt is Tarif Zone Hessen/Thüringen, that makes a lot of Money less than Tarif Zone Bavaria or Baden-Württemberg, the southern States are the best in Germany).
I sell Pharmaceuticals to Doctors and have an 37,5 Hours regular Worktime each Week. My Wages is an Minimum of 3841 Euros an Month, Gratifications, Pension Fund, Christmas and Holiday Money, Provision extra. The Company gives me an Car for my Job, which i can use in Western Europe as much as i like for nothing.
Shipyard Workers will start lower, but if they are Engineer or responsible Groupleaders, Architects and so on, they earn more...
quote:Originally posted by Dolphins:During WWII, the U.S. constructed more ships than the rest of the world combined so to say we don't have the "know how" is balderdash.
Well said... the US doesn't seem to get a lot of press for building commercial ships, and though I'm not sure, I don't think that we in fact do. However, ever the militaristic nation that we are, we do build a great deal of military ships in the past and at present. And despite the fact that my interest is almost entirely in cruise ships, I can't deny the fact that probably the most intricate, hardest to design ships out there are warships. Furthermore, many maritime operators are here. The US certainly has its place on the oceans.
Yes, the US has built a lot of ships, most of all as someone said during the WW2 but that was 60 years ago.
To build a cruise ship has very little in common with building warships.
I’m sure that the US could learn how to build ( on time and within the budget ) but that takes a long time and who wants to pay for that? Not the cruise companies anyway.
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