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Topic: OOSTERDAM interior pics!

Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-26-2003 01:02 AM

I manage to find some interior shots of the newly arrived OOSTERDAM. I don't know if all of these came from OOSTERDAM, but some do look different than on ZUIDERDAM!

Public rooms
Staterooms\

For comparison, below is a ZUIDERDAM interior link:
web page

[ 07-26-2003: Message edited by: Keitaro ]

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Sokker14
First Class Passenger
Member # 2944

posted 07-26-2003 11:46 AM

From the atrium's alone, the Oosterdam looks like a tribute to the 1970s, and the Zuiderdam looks like a triubute to the 1980s. I never thought I would say it, but I think that, from these pics, the Zuiderdam looks nicer.

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cruiseny
First Class Passenger
Member # 2928

posted 07-26-2003 02:11 PM

The atrium, Explorers, and "penguins" are certainly OOSTERDAM. The thermal suite and Pinnacle look just like ZUIDERDAM's, but could well be OOSTERDAM's.

The cabins could be either ship - and confirm my prediction that OOSTERDAM's cabins will be just the same as ZUIDERDAM's (not good).

The only areas that are definitely NOT on ZUIDERDAM look exactly the same, but with a different color scheme (and, frankly, not a more "muted" one either).

It looks like OOSTERDAM will be ZUIDERDAM with a different color scheme in the decor. Frankly to have expected anything else was being overly optimistic!

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-26-2003 02:56 PM

quote:
Cruiseny said:
The thermal suite and Pinnacle look just like ZUIDERDAM's, but could well be OOSTERDAM's.

The floors and walls in the thermal suite on the OOSTERDAM looks different than on ZUIDERDAM

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cruiseny
First Class Passenger
Member # 2928

posted 07-26-2003 04:22 PM

Keitaro - you're right, OOSTERDAM's has a darker color scheme.

Frankly I didn't pay much attention to that room - in fact I never even saw it, and I imagine most pax don't as the only way to get in is to USE it, which costs an arm and a leg and honestly doesn't sound very appealing anyhow. I'd prefer my vegetables, not ME, to be steamed !

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-26-2003 11:37 PM

It would be interesting to hear from passengers's reaction of OOSTERDAM when compared with ZUIDERDAM

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BTF
First Class Passenger
Member # 2024

posted 07-29-2003 09:28 PM

It is hard to compare to the Zuiderdam but so far the Oosterdam looks quite impressive. It will be interesting to hear the reaction once the naming ceremonies are over and the trade and public get a chance to come aboard.

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 07-30-2003 09:10 AM

Looking at the atrium, it appears that only the colors and the main artweork have changed

Oosterdam Atrium

Zuiderdam Atrium

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RANGERVR6178
First Class Passenger
Member # 3946

posted 07-30-2003 10:26 AM

Oosterdam Pics
More courtsy of Cruise-Addicts.com

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-30-2003 10:50 AM

Thanks Rangervr6178! Her interiors looks the same as ZUIDERDAM, only with different colors

Look at the elevator .

[ 07-30-2003: Message edited by: Keitaro ]

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BermudaBoy
First Class Passenger
Member # 3961

posted 07-30-2003 12:12 PM

Did Farcus design the Oosterdam and Zuiderdam?

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 07-30-2003 01:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BermudaBoy:
Did Farcus design the Oosterdam and Zuiderdam?

No, like many of the other ships in the HAL fleet, her interiors were designed by Frans Dingemans of VFD Interiors.

Joe at TravelPage.com

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 07-30-2003 03:08 PM

Bermuda Boy - when the Statendam was being built Farcus was allowed to decorate 2 rooms. I believe they were the Crows Nest and Main Show Lounge. They were such a disaster and not liked by HAL Alumni/Staff, etc., that they had to do the two rooms over.

I heard that he would never again be allowed to touch a HAL ship.

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RANGERVR6178
First Class Passenger
Member # 3946

posted 07-30-2003 03:59 PM

Sympatico - Then why did they make him chief designer of Carnival? They are parent companies!!!

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nathan
First Class Passenger
Member # 720

posted 07-30-2003 04:05 PM

Farcus actually is a private designer, not a Carnival employee, although I'm sure Carnival is his largest, if not only, client. And he's the designer for Carnival Cruise Lines, not Carnival Corporation -- big distinction.

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 07-30-2003 05:42 PM

The eleveator, hmmm, can you say "Groooovy Baby!"

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 07-30-2003 06:19 PM

RANGER - I think Nathan answered your question.

To add a bit to it. The Statendam was the first new ship built for HAL after Carnival took them over, thus I guess, they decided to contract Farcus to do the 2 rooms I mentioned and it was a disaster.

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BermudaBoy
First Class Passenger
Member # 3961

posted 07-30-2003 06:36 PM

...hmmm I was just wondering what Joe Farcus' house must look like... maybe he has squids floating around his living room.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 07-30-2003 08:37 PM

Could previous Carnival cruisers that went on either "Z-class" ships be mistaken that the interiors were designed by the same guy?

Many thanks to Bart for giving us a link to his OOSTERDAM tourthat can be found at Passenger Ship Parade. I want to show a room that I like, but I don't know the name. Can anyone help?

[ 07-30-2003: Message edited by: Keitaro ]

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jsea
First Class Passenger
Member # 3816

posted 07-30-2003 09:37 PM

I think that's the Oak Room.

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empressport
First Class Passenger
Member # 2511

posted 07-30-2003 09:56 PM

What's the best way to convey a wretching sound on the net?

Bleeccchhhh....

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 08-01-2003 05:55 PM

I was a/b the Oosterdam at Rotterdam one Monday and Thursday for the christining.
And yhe pictures are from the Oosterdam.
I have good feelings about the ship. Oke she is not the Rotterdam i visit also but it feel good. I think the interiors are very nice and modern. And give that HAL feeling. I think when she get older and the new is gone she hat that same home feeling as the Rotterdam i visit before here.

The cabins the are fine as a/b Rotterdam the bathrooms are les buth you don't stay in that room all the time.

Only the Vista Lounge i think must chanse because now people on the balcony have not a good sight on the stage. I think the naval architact have placed the roof(not the good word i believe) To low.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 08-02-2003 12:03 AM

I think that HAL have actually toned down OOSTERDAM interiors from ZUIDERDAM. In the thread New Carnival Glory Pictures!, Malcolm quoted that Farcus does not matter what he designed, but that Arison liked it. i think even though Z-class interiors and Carnival's interiors were designed by different firms, the "basics" are still the same...

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 08-02-2003 03:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
I think that HAL have actually toned down OOSTERDAM interiors from ZUIDERDAM. In the thread New Carnival Glory Pictures!, Malcolm quoted that Farcus does not matter what he designed, but that Arison liked it. i think even though Z-class interiors and Carnival's interiors were designed by different firms, the "basics" are still the same...

The Vista class interiors are designed bij VFD interiors Utrecht the Netherlands the head designer voor the project are Frans Dingemans. The compagny is the house interior designers fore the Holland Amerika Lijn. Farcus has nothing to do with it. VFD has also worked on the Nieuw Amsterdam/ Noordam the Statendam class, Rotterdam / Amsterdam, Zaandam/ Volendam. And began designing voor HAL back in the 70's with the Veendam project.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 08-02-2003 06:45 PM

quote:
Maasdam posted:
Farcus has nothing to do with it.

I know. i said that the "cruising people" might think the Z-class and Carnival's ship might be designed by the same guy/firm....

i think even though Z-class interiors and Carnival's interiors were designed by different firms, the "basics" are still the same...

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