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joe at travelpage
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posted 08-15-2003 11:36 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was putting up some new reviews the other night and once again I read where someone says "...the cabin was small but since we don't spend any time in the cabin it didn't matter".

Is this rationalization for having a small cabin or do most people just not spend that much time in their cabin? How important is cabin size to you.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Jekyll
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posted 08-15-2003 12:27 PM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting question - I have often wondered the same thing.

After having sailed in cabins ranging from minimum inside cabins on Sovereign of the Seas to minimum outside cabins on ships like the Nordic Prince and Majesty of the Seas - to larger outside cabins on ships like Seabreeze, QE2 and Sagafjord and last year a standard suite on Seabourn, I can say that the MOST important thing to me is that it is outside.

I find that I usually adapt to the size of the cabin and take it for what it is...I mean I take up the same amount of room in a cabin whether it is 120 sq ft or 227 sq ft.

At the end of the day - the itinerary, staff and fellow passengers are what determine whether I had a great cruise - not the cabin size.

To me...(cabin) size doesn't matter.


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posted 08-15-2003 12:35 PM      Profile for Bibb   Author's Homepage   Email Bibb   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe,

To Karen and I, the cabin size has never been a factor in our booking a cruise. We have had teeny-tiny cabins (Nordic Prince and Southward) and some rather roomy cabins (Norway and Grandeur). We even did a quad in a small cabin once.

Our point in cruising is to cruise every year and do at least one foreign land cruise each year. If we spend too much on amenities and such, we take away something somewhere else. I know this sound like bragging or arrogant (I don't mean it to be) but we have traveled to 44 different countries/island in our 28 years of marriage and we would much rather add another country than have a larger cabin.

By the way, the size of the ship doesn't matter either but we want to try them all. We've done 16,000 to 140,000 GRT ships and love them all.

Bibb


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Amerikanis
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posted 08-15-2003 12:38 PM      Profile for Amerikanis   Email Amerikanis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
More important for me is the Price and the Quality of the Ship.

But i want an Cabin Size, not smaller than 13 Square Meters, this is Standard on the ASTOR.

Celebrity has an Minimum of 16 Square Meters,
this is better, but not so important.

Under 12 it is tiny and uncomfortable, nobody should accept this, there are Offers enough on the Market with better Accomodation for low Prices...


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RobHolland
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posted 08-15-2003 12:43 PM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Having a outside cabin is the most important to me. I don't care if it's small, as I use it mainly for three things- sleeping, dressing and personal care. Having a window/porthole/balcony simply gives a feeling of space. Besides that, it gives you a better idea of day and night> I have had a inside one just once, and I slept hours longer than usual... missed quite a lot because of that!
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posted 08-15-2003 01:43 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From 1A cabins on Carnival to SkySuites on Celebrity, I've been there and done that. Cabin size no longer matters. I have had suites on the top with Butler service and cabins over the bow thrusters and over engine rooms. Location is much more important than cabin size. Location vs Size? What do you think?
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Namlit
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posted 08-15-2003 02:03 PM      Profile for Namlit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Love the large cabins! Our experience has been that we spend significantly more time in the cabin if we book a larger one, especially if it has a balcony. We're not anti-small cabin, and I especially appreciate Bibb's point about the importance of getting oneself ON a ship regularly. I just don't buy the "don't spend any time in the cabin anyway" argument. If the cabin is roomy and pleasant, we love to hang out there.
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PHILPKH923
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posted 08-15-2003 02:36 PM      Profile for PHILPKH923   Email PHILPKH923   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
dmwnc1 said:

quote:
Location is much more important than cabin size. Location vs Size? What do you think?

I agree. I spend little time in the cabin, but I like it to be convenient to lifts, stairs and the dining room in which I am eating!
I also like it to be quiet, and isolated from heavy passenger traffic. Oh, and also the disco, etc. noise! Am I too picky?

Is anything available in the bilge?


...Ken

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Bibb
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posted 08-15-2003 03:14 PM      Profile for Bibb   Author's Homepage   Email Bibb   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HI - Jumping back in for another reply, if I may. I didn't even think of LOCATION and. absolutely, location takes place over cabin size. The deck, itself, doesn't matter. We've been high and we've been low.

I have lived my life with the thought that every hour I am sleeping is an hour of life I'm missing and I find myself (in my old age) grabbing a power nap if I stay in the room too much. Cruises to Karen and I are not restful; we go from around 8:00AM to about 2:00AM and going to the room is deadly.

Choices on anything in cruising is strictly "whatever pops your corn", personally. I wouldn't argue a single point in any of the posts above.

Happy cruising everyone.

Bibb


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annnthony
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posted 08-15-2003 06:18 PM      Profile for annnthony   Email annnthony   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Size of cabin propably doesn't matter if traveling alone, as most of the respondents imply....not "we or our".....but, it does matter when cruising with a spouse or significant other....you do spend more time in the cabin and you do want more "space"! Couples probably spend at least four hours per day in the cabin when not sleeping.....and they don't want to be confined to a 15'x10' or 14'x 10' room!!

Another factor is cost.....surely, you will sacrifice space for a lesser cost....if that's what you can afford to take the cruise. It's all subjective to the individual(s) involved! You sacrifice space for net cost, and, that's okay!


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posted 08-15-2003 07:44 PM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We all know it's not the size of the cabin, but the motion of the ocean!
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KansasK
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posted 08-15-2003 09:21 PM      Profile for KansasK   Email KansasK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think small can be too small. The inside cabin we had on the Monarch of the Seas was the smallest cabin I have been in. We had dive gear with us and I tripped over it the whole cruise in that small room. We had to keep a sense of humor. I still view the entire cruise as a wonderful time, though. Room size could not lessen my pleasure at being on a cruise.

We had a balcony on our cruise last month on the Navigator of the Seas and the room was not large, but noticably bigger than on the Monarch. The balcony really added to the enjoyment of the room.
We did spend more time in a room with a balcony than in an inside room.

I wonder if I will ever graduate to a suite!


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posted 08-15-2003 09:52 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Inside/Outside - personal choice - to me an outside cabin is important - to my other half, perhaps not.

Layout I believe is of prime importance.

Even a small cabin can appear spacious when properly furnished and laid out. A queen size bed for example takes no more space than do twin beds - visually the queen bed dominates the cabin - split the bed and you have walk-between, sit and chat space- visually more space.

A cabin we had on the QE2 proabably had almost the same sq.ft. as a Cat. C on a HAL ship - we were and felt cramped, constantly 'dodging' each other - poor furniture placement.

It's true you don't spend a lot of time in the cabin but it's still important that you feel 'comfortable'.


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desirod7
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posted 08-17-2003 09:57 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If I am by myself it does not matter, If traveling with someone, there should be at least enough floor space for 2 people to get dressed at the same time.

I do spend time in my cabin: usually lying in bed watching TV or reading when I need downtime from socializing.

110sf net: not including bath or closets is adequate.

Bibb, I am with you. The less expensive cabin booked, enables me to afford more cruises and other types of vacations too.

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gohaze
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posted 08-17-2003 11:03 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Having had quite a lot of different cabins over the years I thought I'd comment. Up until recently, we usually did long-hauls, so a reasonable size outside was fine as long as it was around midships and fairly low down, important for comfort in poor weather.
Now however conditions have changed and the size and layout of the handicapped cabins has become important. I use a scooter so for example, how easy is it for me to get it into the cabin without help? Is there space to turn it etc. The last one on the Coral it was even easy to take it on the balcony...very good.

....peter


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Colin
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posted 08-18-2003 04:17 AM      Profile for Colin   Email Colin   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We've had cabins all the way from 40sq ft. to almost 300sq ft. and sure, the bigger cabins were better - that 5' x 8' cabin was a real squeeze for two. But size still isn't that important to us.

We fall into the "don't spend much time in the cabin" camp. We'd much rather spend time out on deck or in a lounge either meeting people or just people-watching. One thing I look for is a bathtub rather than a shower, but I could sail in any cabin if the ship, itinerary and price were right.


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posted 08-18-2003 05:48 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I’ve booked a range of cabins too, from mini-suites to inside ones. I think it depends on the itinerary and your preference.

You do not need a big expensive cabin to enjoy a cruise. You do not need a port hole, window or balcony either.

Over the years cabins are getting bigger. Even the smallest on modern ships are perfectly adequate, in my opinion.

However, the whole point of luxury is that if you pay more (some times a lot more) you do get something more comfortable. Perhaps the cabin become 25-50 more comfortable, but you are required to pay 100 per cent more for it!

Cabin upgrades on ships operating from UK ports are particularly expensive

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Eric
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posted 08-18-2003 03:03 PM      Profile for Eric   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We are also in "not much time in cabin" camp. Itinerary,food,price & entertainment are more important to us. Having said that layout & planning of cabin can add or distract from cruise experience. We slated our disaster with European Vision but the cabins at 135 sq ft were better planned & therefor more comfortable than P&O's Arcadia at 180 sq ft. Also had small cabins on Sun Viking & were dissapointed to be "upgraded" from a larger inside on Caronia to a very small outside. We still say our most dissapointing cabin was the very tiny one that HAL ripped us off with having booked 14 months in advance on Ryndam.
Eric

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posted 08-18-2003 04:48 PM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

You do not need a big expensive cabin to enjoy a cruise. You do not need a port hole, window or balcony either.

Well, I think this is something personal that you can't just generalize. I can imagine that there are people who can't enjoy a cruise when they have to spend their personal time in a, in their eyes, claustrofobic shoebox. Think about people who live in big houses/ farmers who live in all freedom- just to mention some examples!
Every passenger enjoys his or her cruise on it's own way.


quote:

We still say our most dissapointing cabin was the very tiny one that HAL ripped us off with having booked 14 months in advance on Ryndam.

When booking 14 months in advance, there's normally no doubt the company will rip you off! I don't understand why people book so extremely early. Prices are abnormal and not seldom go down by 50% compared with the prices offered some weeks for departure. I can imagine people want the security of being booked on a certain cruise but taking a big chance can save a big amount of money. Furthermore, there are so many offers all the time that another cruise (-same region/company/sisterships?) isn't hard to find.


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posted 08-18-2003 07:05 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
RobHolland....one cruise we wanted to do several years ago we were on standby for 15 months and didn't make it. Next time we booked the day they opened !!!! We've done that too in order to get the cabin we want. It doesn't cost anything if you cancel before the penalty date.

....peter


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posted 08-18-2003 10:21 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Eric:
.......... We still say our most dissapointing cabin was the very tiny one that HAL ripped us off with having booked 14 months in advance on Ryndam.
Eric

Surprising comment! Ryndam, Maasdam, Statendam and Veendam share same size cabins - Insides are usually around 180+ sq. ft. - outsides around 195+ sq.ft.
Where is this tiny one? - interested in deck and number so that it can be avoided.


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Green
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posted 08-18-2003 10:56 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RobHolland:

When booking 14 months in advance, there's normally no doubt the company will rip you off! ……….
I can imagine people want the security of being booked on a certain cruise but taking a big chance can save a big amount of money. Furthermore, there are so many offers all the time that another cruise (-same region/company/sisterships?) isn't hard to find.


Can’t agree with your first statement - …
- we've frequently booked that far ahead and have always received available discounts prior to making final payment. That said, we've kept an eye on pricing and talking with our TA - don't know of a Line that's going to just 'give' you the discount!

Discounts applied close to the sailing date are generally for cabins in less desirable locations. As for the many offers available in the present market, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that continuing.

To each his own though, if you’re willing to take the chance, go for it and enjoy!


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posted 08-19-2003 12:36 PM      Profile for eandjracquet   Email eandjracquet   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We had a cabin with a large window (cabin was 120 square feet) on the Song of America-because one bed folded up into the wall during the day it did not feel small. Did Carnival inside twice-did not feel small (185 square feet-once with a third). Had suites on the Enchanted Isle and Regal Empress--both with third passengers-as well as former first class cabin on the Norway-again with third passenger-spent time in the outsides more than the insides on all cruises-regardless of size!
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Eric
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posted 08-19-2003 03:08 PM      Profile for Eric   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Green, there are 3 tiny insides possibly as small as 115sq ft up forward on the deck with all the balcony suites. My guess is they were designed as singles but HAL stuck a double bed in there. My apologies to those who have seen these comments before in another thread some time ago.
Eric

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posted 08-19-2003 04:53 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eric - those three tiny inside cabins are usually reserved for the clergy or for anyone travelling alone who is not paying for their cabin.

Did you book this cabin or did you book a guarantee in the cabin category?

The only person I have ever heard of who had one of these cabins was a Priest.


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