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gpcruisedude
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posted 01-24-2004 07:32 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone think the Topaz will cruise right until 2010, she is in excellent shape and I think she would be an ideal candidate for preservation after 2010, I was on her as The Carnivale a number of times and loved her, she is one of my favorite Classic Ships and I think as a Hotel ship in Vancouver or Victoria or someplace close would be a suitable future for her after 2010! Cause I dont think she can sail after that...even though most of the wood on her was removed back in 1997! She has very little of her wood left interior wise, I dont know about the materials she was built with, I think they may doom her!
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cruiseny
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posted 01-24-2004 09:45 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure she would not be able to operate past 2010. She may not look like she has wood but no doubt there are all kinds of banned materials lurking unseen.

As for preserving her, if anyone was looking to preserve a ship like her they missed the boat with APOLLON. Unfortunately, I have not heard anyone else (except myself) ever suggest that she be preserved, and so now she's being scrapped at Alang without any organized effort to save her having gotten off the ground or even being suggested. In the case of THE TOPAZ, there is not a single splinter of original interior inside her (the complete opposite of the almost perfectly preserved APOLLON); everything dates from the late '80s Farcus refit or Thomson's 1997 "toning-down" (which did not remove her wood - that was done by Farcus during her twilight years with Carnival). Internally, she is no more worth of preservation than any modern cruise ship.

Personally I think it is tragic that this ship has outlived her younger running mate, not only because I always preferred EMPRESS OF CANADA but more importantly because APOLLON might have been the best candidate for preservation in the world after ROTTERDAM while with THE TOPAZ frankly I can't see what there is left worth preserving. Even her exterior profile is pretty much ruined. Last time I saw her, my impression was simply of an ugly, worn-out old ship, and nothing more. I have nothing against her but I'd easily have sacrificed her in favor of APOLLON or MARIANNA VII or countless other vessels that have recently gone off to be scrapped and that were far more worthy of preservation than this ugly duckling... Even if she did start out as a beautiful swan (backwards, I know!).


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jeffrossatsea
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posted 01-26-2004 11:31 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
actually she's back in vancouver june 23rd for a world cruise visit.......jeff
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Ocean Liners
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posted 01-26-2004 11:55 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She's also visits to Vancouver on Oct. 3
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anthemius
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posted 01-27-2004 01:43 PM      Profile for anthemius   Author's Homepage   Email anthemius   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Guys,
where can I get the complete sailing shedule of TOPAZ for 2004? I tried in vain to find it on the net....

Thanks for your advice!

Michael
Germany


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Ocean Liners
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posted 01-30-2004 01:38 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's the link to The Topaz's site

Peaceboat


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Aussie1
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posted 02-02-2004 01:28 AM      Profile for Aussie1   Email Aussie1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Doug noted "In the case of THE TOPAZ, there is not a single splinter of original interior inside her "

This isn't quite true, her old Empress Room remains much as it did full of lovely woodwork and veneers. Also her "Farcus" refit actually saw much of her panelling painted or wall papered over rather than removed. (Mainly the corridors and stairwells and higher class cabins, the cheaper cabins were stripped.) I agree Apollon would have been the perfect candidate for preservation and indeed some years ago it was suggested that she be moved to the Mersey in a static role. In the end she was caught up in ROC's collapse when she still had plenty of life left.


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jeffrossatsea
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posted 02-03-2004 10:27 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
how long will the "topaz" be chartered to peaceboat ?.....and after that......what ship do you think will be a replacement when the charter is over ?.......i don't believe the "olvia" would be considered.....jeff
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