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SAN DIEGO - A cruise ship passenger was rescued after he fell from a deck into the waters off of Mexico, officials said Wednesday.
The luxury vessel Crystal Harmony was about 100 miles south of Ensenada when some crew members smoking on a deck saw the unidentified man fall from the sixth deck shortly after 6 a.m. Wednesday, said Mimi Weisband, spokeswoman for Crystal Cruises.
The sixth deck contains entertainment facilities, including a shopping area, theater, saloon, lounge, casino, sports area and golf driving net, according to the vessel's plans.
"A few of our galley crew saw a body fall past them and into the water and they immediately advised the bridge and threw a life ring," she said.
"The captain got on the speaker they use to call the rooms," passenger Milton Cole of Beverly Hills said in a telephone conversation from the ship. "He said, 'This is not a drill. It's Code Oscar.' And subsequently we heard that Code Oscar means man overboard."
A smoke pot was tossed down to mark the spot and the 50,000-ton vessel began to turn around. The ship's tender was lowered and retrieved the man, who was treated for hypothermia in the ship's medical facilities.
The rescue took about 30 minutes.
The captain later announced the rescue to the 900 other passengers.
"Apparently he was greeted throughout the ship with applause. They did do a wonderful job," Weisband said.
The man apparently boarded in Los Angeles on Feb. 14, when the ship began its 10-day round-trip cruise to the Mexican Riviera.
Weisband did not know his identity.
"We did learn that he was a middle-aged man traveling alone. He was a guest on board," she said.
The man was turned over to harbor police when the ship stopped in San Diego at about 1 p.m. The man was questioned and then released.
"He wasn't arrested," Senior Officer Laura Tosatto said. "He told the officers that he accidentally fell. He appeared to be all fine, healthy and didn't have any medical problems."From The Mercury News.
Pam
quote:Originally posted by sslewis:Another one?It seems to be a new cruiseship virus!They will have to put webcams on deck now!
I do not understand why there are not any kind of detectors/cameras. I could imagine many different solutions, not causing too many false alarms. Why are they not doing that? The last time being on a shio, and travelling alone I wondered how long it would take until someone realized that I fell overboard: I would say the next evening, when you do not show up at your table, but with alternative dining this might even take longer than that....
Regards,Mike
quote:Originally posted by Deck 9 001:Star Cruises has "millions" of security cameras on every open deck, in every nook and cranny and all public spaces, plus every other space imaginable! This is fleet wide.Regards,Mike
But is someone watching? At least, if they are recording what the cameras see, one could trace back when someone, who is missing, fell over board, but I guess you have to combine it with sensors like light barriers etc. Nevertless, better than nothing. (I know, this rarly happens, but the equipment needed for a woriking "man-over-board" detection system is not that expensive)
These may only be recorded, but to be honest, I would not want my every movement watched 24hrs a day purely because someone may feel like going over once in a blue moon. Yes, there have been a few recently, but a very small number considering the thousands aboard ship every week.
Interesting he was handed over to the police. Seems more like he didn't 'just fall', & must have been doing something very daft to go over accidentally, but no evidence for charges to be pressed.. anyhow I don't suppose walking along the railings is an offence as such. There is too little info in the statement to come to any real conclusion.
Just no more flippin' cameras please. I hate the things!
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:He jumped-period. It is very unlikely he 'fell' overboard. All of us who have been aboard a passenger ship know how high the ship's rails are-you can't fall overboard. I would let the guy just end it. He most likely is suicidal and will try something else on land and hopefully not hurt anyone in the process. Here in L.A. recently a deranged man parked his SUV on a commuter train track. He changed his mind and watched from the sidelines as the speepding train hit the SUV killing over 10 train passengers.
This was international news, we saw it here too on TV.
Perhaps that is the reason why he was brought to the police. Even then, formalities have to be fulfilled.
I think the lure of the Ocean can be very strong sometimes, and that certainly in the middle of the night...
I wouldn't like camera's all around.
Ernst, if travelling alone, I think one could be only missed at the end of the voyage, or, if the steward is attentive, when he sees nothing in the cabin has changed.Does anyone know if the cabin staff has any info about guidelines how they must react to something ?
J
Maybe they should meet customer demand by bringing back 'gang-planks'?
Personally I think it is impossible to fall of a cruise ship, unless you are doing something very stupid, like using the rail as a tight-rope, or you are 8ft tall.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:It is very unusual that a person eneters the water from an upmarket ship! It normally happens on Carnival ships. Maybe they should meet customer demand by bringing back 'gang-planks'? Personally I think it is impossible to fall of a cruise ship, unless you are doing something very stupid, like using the rail as a tight-rope, or you are 8ft tall.
People tend to do stupid things.
- Males are much more likely to go overboard than females (9 vs. 2)- Carnival passengers (6 incidents) are more likely to go overboard than passengers from other cruise lines...especially passengers on the Fascination (2 incidents)- The average age of a passenger who goes overboard is 33 years old- You are most likely to fall overboard on the last night of your cruise- For some reason, people from Virginia go overboard more than others (3 incidents)- Falling overboard does not necessarily mean you will die (3 people have been rescued, one after 18 hours in the water)- Most people who fall overboard are either drunk or doing silly things (climbing on the railing or between cabin balconies)
As the sample size increases I will update the stats.
Joe at TravelPage.com
On the BBC website today I read:-
"Suicide woman banned from rivers A woman who has attempted suicide four times has been banned from jumping into rivers, canals or onto railway lines.
Bath magistrates granted an anti-social behaviour order (Asbo) against Kim Sutton from Odd Down.
The 23-year-old was rescued three times from the River Avon in Bath last year after trying to take her life.
She was also found hanging from a railway parapet and police had to stop trains to rescue her. Sutton could be jailed for breaking the order.
On Thursday, magistrates sentenced her for three public order offences after deciding at an earlier hearing that throwing herself into a river did constitute disorder.
The Asbo seeks to prevent her doing anything which could cause alarm or distress to the public." see here.
If someone wants to commit suicide, what is the point of an order banning them from doing so? If she tries it again and fails, she could be jailed; so she'll probably make sure she succeeds.
[ 02-26-2005: Message edited by: PamM ]
Simply persuade Carnival not to serve alcohol to 33 year old men from Virginia on the last night of any cruise on "Fascination"
Problem solved.
[ 02-26-2005: Message edited by: Meldrew of the Seas ]
quote:Originally posted by Meldrew of the Seas:So we can drastically reduce "overboards" by a simple precaution. No cameras, alarms etc needed.Simply persuade Carnival not to serve alcohol to 33 year old men from Virginia on the last night of any cruise on "Fascination"Problem solved.[ 02-26-2005: Message edited by: Meldrew of the Seas ]
Or Carnival changes the itinieries in a way, that the ships (esp. Fascination) arrives one night earlier without telling anyone. (Of course they have to stay in the mid of the harbour basin, as people might impact on the pier)
quote:Originally posted by joe at travelpage:As the sample size increases I will update the stats. Joe at TravelPage.com
Joe--Interesting stats!
Based on your data analysis, you could do a reasonable composite for cruiselines/Coast Guard to follow/look for whenever they are made aware that there is a "man" (82 percent probability) reported overboard.
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