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PamM
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posted 03-29-2005 12:47 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understand from the CunardQM2 list, that at present there are 4 dogs and 1 cat enjoying the delights of the kennels. The info comes from a passenger aboard. This not even a crossing, but a Caribbean Cruise... why would anyone take a pet "on holiday".

Assuming this is true, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be, the food/kennel issue must have been overcome? Or perhaps this is a test, to see if the dogs bark at the wafting smells? Hygiene cannot be a problem as there is no internal access between the kitchens/kennels.

Pam


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NAL
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posted 03-29-2005 01:13 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was my understanding that kennels were only
used on crosssings and NEVER on cruises. I'd
like to know the answer to this one. The only
exception are dogs who are in service to the
blind or physically challenged.

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PamM
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posted 03-29-2005 02:10 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think they have ever been used on QM2 as IIRC they failed on 'health' grounds, being too close to a food outlet. The exact problem never seemed to be stated, and people only guessed it may be a smell food/dog barking issue more than anything else. I am sure that could be overcome easily enough.

Pam


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joe at travelpage
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posted 03-29-2005 02:11 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe they are an officer's family pets? Maybe the family is onboard for spring break and it was easier to bring the pets than board them.

I can't think of any reason a passenger would be allowed to bring a pet on for a cruise. My understanding is that service dogs stay with their owner in the cabin - putting them in the kennel would defeat their purpose.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-29-2005 02:15 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
I don't think they have ever been used on QM2 as IIRC they failed on 'health' grounds, being too close to a food outlet.

That was the 'word' on the street, but I'm not clear if it is true? Gerry?


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-29-2005 02:17 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
... why would anyone take a pet "on holiday".

Easy, here are three possible reasons:

1) The owners have far too much money

2) They can't tell the difference between animals and people

3) They are completely mad


I hate to guess what Cunard charge for a Dog? 75% of the adult fare, maybe, plus tips? I wonder if there is a choice of Britannia or Grill class?

(Do the animals have to take part in the lifeboat drill?)

[ 03-29-2005: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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CGT
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posted 03-29-2005 03:37 PM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

I can't think of any reason a passenger would be allowed to bring a pet on for a cruise.

Joe at TravelPage.com


Why not?

A) If you can afford it, it's no one elses business and..

B) Perhaps people would rather have their pets with them so that they can visit them rather than putting them in a Kennel on land...that would be the pet owners business and no one elses....


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tazza
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posted 03-29-2005 06:28 PM      Profile for tazza     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I completely agree CGT, if the facility is there and people wish to use it onboard, then why not? Some people see pets as members of the family, maybe they just really enjoy their company?
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Weaver
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posted 03-29-2005 07:34 PM      Profile for Weaver   Email Weaver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Never get between an old woman and her little dog. I made that mistake. My prostectic works just fine now grasping things.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 03-29-2005 09:00 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a question in regards to transporting pets from the U.S. to the U.K.. What are the rules now for quarantine? I think it use to be that once landed, the pet had to be in quarantine for six months. If it still six months, the kennels most likely would be used for pets being relocated there and not for a holiday with their owners/guardians.
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Green
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posted 03-29-2005 10:10 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In our 'house with garden' years we always had pets - 2 dogs - and they were our kids. Certain vacations decreed that 'the gals' could not accompany us so we boarded them in a thoroughly checked out facility On one occasion we had friends, who also had dogs, move into our home- that worked too.

I can't see taking pets on a cruise - animals do not readily adapt to temperature changes and, like us, can become seasick.

Like NAL I thought that only 'crossings' accepted pets.

Several times we've cruised on HAL with so called 'service dogs'. They are exceptional animals, worth their weight in gold to their owners. There is no way such animals should be confined to kennel space, it would totally defeat their purpose in life - those dogs become one with their owner.

Please, what does "IIRC" mean?

Don't know about other parts of the world but here in Canada a 'service dog' can not be denied entry to any public place - our fines are very high - and rightly so!


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CGT
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posted 03-29-2005 10:18 PM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:


Please, what does "IIRC" mean?


IIRC means "If I Recall Correctly."


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joe at travelpage
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posted 03-29-2005 11:49 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CGT:

Perhaps people would rather have their pets with them so that they can visit them rather than putting them in a Kennel on land...

While I can appreciate that some pet owners might want to bring their dog or cat on board for a cruise, I think that's a selfish decision. I think the dog or cat would be much happier in a kennel surrounded by friends in a similar situation. In my opinion, locking your dog or cat in a cage in a loud and unfamiliar surrounding for a week is no way to treat your pet - even if you can afford it.

Just my opinion.

Joe


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CGT
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posted 03-30-2005 01:45 AM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

While I can appreciate that some pet owners might want to bring their dog or cat on board for a cruise, I think that's a selfish decision. I think the dog or cat would be much happier in a kennel surrounded by friends in a similar situation. In my opinion, locking your dog or cat in a cage in a loud and unfamiliar surrounding for a week is no way to treat your pet - even if you can afford it.

Just my opinion.

Joe


Well that's nobody's business but the pet owners. I love animals, but I don't think it would be cruel. If I were to relocate from the East Coast back to the West Coast and were to travel back via the New York to L.A. portion of the QE2's world cruise, I'd want to take my pet with me in the Kennel and not be told "SORRY, it's a CRUISE"

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PamM
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posted 03-30-2005 06:20 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dogs/cats aboard a ship, purely for the purpose of a cruise, because their owner wants them there, seems cruel to me. Having a visit every now and then, when that pet thinks that's it, he's being let out, only to be shoved back inside, is not right. In a boarding kennel, the pet doesn't see his owner so doesn't have that to contend with.

Ever known someone have a pet in quarantine? An aunt quarantined 2 cats once. She started off visiting all the time, but it was too much strain on both her and the cats, when it was 'goodbye' & back in the cage. She felt better not visiting and going through the heartache; instead just phoning for a daily report. She would never do it again, and said she wished she'd found them a new owner overseas instead of putting them through it.

On a crossing, there is a purpose, house/job move, whatever... the pet would otherwise have to go on a flight. Purely for a cruise to satisfy the whims of a selfish owner, I think is a no-no. If one really can't bear to leave one's dog for a cruise, then don't go.

Pam

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-30-2005 06:30 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...on the subject of the QM2 kennels, rather than 'minding my own business', I had a quick look at the unused facility when I was aboard out of curiosity – the door was unlocked.

For some reason I had expected some sort of palatial facility. However, there was just a small plain room, more like a prison cell.


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CGT
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Well I think you're all ridicuolous and that's MY opinion.

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sslewis
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posted 03-30-2005 10:37 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You definitely can't overprotect animal or humans whose natural cyclic life can have disastrous consequences if altered.
Even humans need to be taken away on cruises so their families can enjoy some peace
But back to pets, I see the problem is about location, near the funnel, and above those luxury suites.
On QM2, the pets would be very happy near the crew deck aft?
BTW, pets are carried on ferries provided they have a Passport, but must stay in the car, a truly horrible option(my car stank dead fish for weeks after parking behind a lorry).
Pont Aven is the first ferry to have a specially dedicated space, and quite trendy at it!

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posted 03-30-2005 10:47 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do not like the idea of taking pets on a cruise as this usually would involve unnecessary stress for the animals. Having a pet involves responsibilities, and holidays therfore have to be adopted for this situation.

The case of QM2 is of course different. Actually she is a liner, and altough most people see it a s a cruise, it is for a very small minority just a way to cross the Atlantic. Especially for pets this might be the better choice compared to the cargo hold of an aircraft. So if it is not possible, for whatever reasons, to have the pets in the cabins, they should provide proper (!!!) facilites.


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