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OceanVoyager
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posted 11-26-2005 01:57 AM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi everyone.

I hope you are all well, apologies for lack of posts to the forum, we've just moved, and with all the unpacking, trying to get our broadband sorted etc etc, its been a bit manic to say the least! From the front of our house we have a view of Southampton Water, and in these dark cold winter nights, the sight of a cruise ship sailing past lit up like a Christmas tree is quite impressive!

Anyhow, not sure if you know, but there is the end of an era in Southampton.
The dry dock, built originally for the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth has been flooded for the last time.

A&P, the current operators, have decided that the dry dock is no longer comercially viable, and have decided that in Southampton they will concentrate on alongside and "wet dock" repairs.

I personally think this is a great shame, especially as they have done some fantastic refits on cruise ships over the last few years.

So, for the record, the last cruise ship to be in the dry dock was the rebranding of Adonia to Sea Princess.

I am glad that I took the photos which I posted at the time and are in one of my albums.

Regards,
Andrew


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sealeg claude
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posted 11-26-2005 02:16 AM      Profile for sealeg claude   Email sealeg claude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi,
Doesn't that leave the whole of the UK without a drydock yard facility ??? I'm including Ireland and Scotland here.

That would be a shame....

Cheers
CG


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posted 11-26-2005 04:19 AM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sealeg claude:
Hi,
Doesn't that leave the whole of the UK without a drydock yard facility ???

CG


Hello, there are still dry dock facilities in Falmouth and on Tyneside, run by A&P.

I think we will see most cruise ship refits in either Bremerhaven or Hamburg from now on.

Wonder if there might have been a more level playing field if the UK adopted the Euro? (Please don't think I'm starting a Political debate!!).

Ciao,
Andrew


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posted 11-26-2005 04:53 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's still Belfast & Glasgow too, Portsmouth.. along with Falmouth.. there are plenty of dry dock facilities in the NE re the rigs etc. Southampton did not seem to really do much work, but it does seem a shame that there will be nothing there now at all.

Pam


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posted 11-26-2005 02:00 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read that yesterday in the paper. Typically not on their website!!!!

It is very sad news indeed.

Andrew, Ocean Village I think was the last one in dry dock. Either that or Oceana. Adonia went in on the 15th April. She was in dry dock when the Queens were in on the 16th. She left for sea trials on the 27th, returning about 4am on the 28th. OV was the 30th April in the fog (2 Arcadia's that day ). Can't remember when Oceana was so perhaps that was the last. OV came out on the 10th May. I was down the marina at the time for the QM2/Star Princess arrival and she was meant to come out at 8am only didn't until sometime in the afternoon (2 Star Princesses! ).

Have you got a link for your pics?

[ 11-26-2005: Message edited by: Patsy ]


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posted 11-27-2005 02:07 PM      Profile for sealeg claude   Email sealeg claude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good morning, Andrew and Pam;

I know about Hamburg and Bremerhafen...but are the other yards you two mentionned within the UK suitable for 900'+++ ships and beyond to Postpanamax size drydock work?? I'm sure they're all suitable for up to 100' wide ship...but the lenght ??

Thanks for sharing your informations.

Cheers
CG


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posted 11-27-2005 02:07 PM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patsy:

Have you got a link for your pics?

[ 11-26-2005: Message edited by: Patsy ]


Hi Patsy (and everyone else), we've settled into life in Hythe very quickly, its great being here! Just before I set off for work this evening I was having dinner from our lounge watched Aurora pass by, looking very beautiful!
The link to my photos should be as follows:-

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/aspgallery/view_ad.asp?Ad_ID=1844&CatLevel=&Cat1_ID=&Cat2_ID=&Cat3_ID=&Cat4_ID=&FromSearch=True&SearchPage=%2Ftravelpage%2Faspgallery%2Fview% 5Fuser%5Fads%2Easp%3FUser%5FID%3D1028%26Ad%5FID%3D1844

If that doesn't work, go onto the photo gallery and in the search field, enter "Adonia".

Ciao for now,
Andrew


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posted 11-27-2005 02:12 PM      Profile for OceanVoyager   Email OceanVoyager   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sealeg claude:

are the other yards you two mentionned within the UK suitable for 900'+++ ships and beyond to Postpanamax size drydock work?? I'm sure they're all suitable for up to 100' wide ship...but the lenght ??



Hi Claude & Pam, not sure on the full details, but I'm pretty sure that none of the dry docks in the UK that do Cruise refits cannot take post panamax vessels. If I do get any information I'll post it on here, but I expect Pam will have the info.
Best regards,
Andrew


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posted 11-27-2005 05:28 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CG the largest drydock facility in Europe is on the Tees. Able UK have a 25 acre drydock basin which can take vessels up to 1200' with no width limit [but the gate is 122m wide]. They can take many vessels in at once.

Belfast is 556m [1824ft] x 93m [305ft] and Falmouth's largest [they have 3 altogether] is 259m [850ft] x 39.6m [130], so they can do, as they did, the Thomsons of this world. Southampton had a max length of 1000ft. Most of the others are around the 200m mark. So S'ton is a loss, but does not leave us bereft. Most of the business with ferries etc is done in Falmouth anyway.

The Falmouth detail can be found here, click locations then Falmouth.

Pam


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