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Also mentions that the QE2 2006 World Cruise already has a record number of boolkings for the full circumnavigation.
quote:Originally posted by John121:... Queen and Princess Grills, double-height Queen's Ballroom, library over two decks connected by a spiral staircase, glass-roofed winter garden and a Cunard museum.
A 'real' Cunard Ocean Liner after all!
[ 12-20-2005: Message edited by: Ernst ]
No doubt Cunard wants you to think "Cunard ocean-liner" anytime you hear of these features, and regardless of whether the ship is a true ocean liner or merely a cruise ship. They will expect you to pay more as well!
Smart marketing.
Ernie
Never the less you can fool many of the people, most of the time, but NOT us!
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:I bet if Cunard read these forums they are shocked by our negativity. [...]
Negativity? Actually I consider my comment as very bootlicking.
I do not know what you want - HAL is know to build good ships and it refelcts a long lasting Cunard tradition to consume good ships from other lines.
Don`t forget how the traditional Cunard fleet looked alike recently:
VistafjordSagafjordRoyal Viking SunSea Godess I & II
....and also the QE2 - the vessel which continued the long tradition of white funnels, trendy sixties furniture and decoration and the motto of being 'not too Cunardy'
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:I bet if Cunard read these forums they are shocked by our negativity.Never the less you can fool many of the people, most of the time, but NOT us!
Luckily for Cunard and most other cruise lines, we are not their "typical" passenger. We actually remember the name of the ship we just sailed on!
Well I guess they have to fill their cruise ship that so correctly follows their own naming tradition, oh I keep forgetting there has never been a Cunarder named Queen Victoria!
Onno
quote:Originally posted by Onno: [...].... oh I keep forgetting there has never been a Cunarder named Queen Victoria!
...at least she will have the traditional Cunard funnel which has been introduced in 1986.
Yes, sure,
quote:Originally posted by John121:... "She will [...] built in true Cunard style ...." [....]
Hey, try to be a bit more optimistic. (Finally it`s a HAL ship (or was it Costa or Carnival - I do not remember... ), so what should go wrong? )
quote: originally posted by erolloer:No doubt Cunard wants you to think "Cunard ocean-liner" anytime you hear of these features, and regardless of whether the ship is a true ocean liner or merely a cruise ship. They will expect you to pay more as well!
And no doubt, the phrase will become redundant; Cunard becoming the only line to offer true ocean liners, and the only ocean-liner-only line. Thus, Cunard = ocean liners. Not that there's anything wrong with that by any means!
[ 12-20-2005: Message edited by: BigUFan ]
quote:Originally posted by BigUFan:And no doubt, the phrase will become redundant; Cunard becoming the only line to offer true ocean liners, and the only ocean-liner-only line. Thus, Cunard = ocean liners. Not that there's anything wrong with that by any means![ 12-20-2005: Message edited by: BigUFan ]
Good point, and I agree when speaking of QE2 and QM2. I'm not so sure I'll be thinking "ocean liner" when I see QV. I certainly don't when I see CARNIVAL SPIRIT, ZUIDERDAM, or ARCADIA. These are full fledged cruise ships no matter what title you want to label them with.
But Cunard is by far not the only line which has or tries to have tradition and 'ocean liner' as selling point: In the same group we find P&O and HAL, and also Disney or Deilmann who try to distinguish themself by offering a 'traditional ambience'.
Not ot forget the more or less only line which suceeded in adopting and thus mantaining it`s long tradition in contrast to those who try to imitate the past: Hapag Lloyd. They offer a first class product - and they do this for quite some time now. The difference is that they do not rely on folcloristic nostalgia.
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:But Cunard is by far not the only line which has or tries to have tradition and 'ocean liner' as selling point: In the same group we find P&O and HAL, and also Disney or Deilmann who try to distinguish themself by offering a 'traditional ambience'.
Don't forget Saga ... which offers two of the finest classic ships in the World IMO. I personally would prefer to sail on either over QM2 or QE2 if I were only old enough!
quote:Originally posted by eroller:I were only old enough! Ernie
I were only old enough!
Don't wish for that. It will come before you know it!
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:Don't wish for that. It will come before you know it!
So true. It seems like only yesterday I was Jacques Rudolph's age. (inside joke for Ozzy and Seffrican CT'ers)
Brian
[ 12-20-2005: Message edited by: Brian_O ]
quote:Brian_O wrote:So true. It seems like only yesterday I was Jacques Rudolph's age.
Thanks for reminding us (ozzies) Brian.
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