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kaiser
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posted 01-20-2006 09:26 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I heard that there was an incident on a Norwegian Cruise Line ship in the Caribbean ... an NCL ship was apparently hit by a large wave ... some damage but fortunately no serious injuries.

Anyone with any more information?

Regards, Kaiser

[ 01-20-2006: Message edited by: kaiser ]


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harborman
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posted 01-20-2006 10:09 PM      Profile for harborman   Email harborman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes it was the NCL Spirit, 11 night cruise NY to NY
Wednesday night the 18th of Jan. I was on this cruise the seas were 40+ feet with 60+mph winds, we hit a big wave on the port side and several windows on deck 5 were broken. The ship was rolling from side to side all night, plate and glasses were being thrown from the tables in the dining room. Very rough ride, we were 1 1/2 hrs late into NY. Many people very glad to get off don't think they'll ever get on a ship again.

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cruiseshipluver
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posted 01-21-2006 07:49 AM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
that is some wave..glad to hear no one was injured...but i am supprised to hear about a wave like that is the Caribbean..
cruiseshipluver

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harborman
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posted 01-21-2006 09:07 AM      Profile for harborman   Email harborman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The wave was in the Atlantic, we were somewhere off the coast of Virginia when it hit. When we got to NY the folks on the pier had told us the winds on Wednesday and Wednesday night had been very high, so I guess some kind of from was going by.

Didn't hear of any injuries, just a lot of sick and scared people.


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eroller
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posted 01-21-2006 11:50 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
First I'm glad no one was injured. Second ... I WISH I WAS THERE!! I miss out on all the fun.

Here I book January North Atlantic crossings hoping for seas like the SPIRIT encountered ... and nothing! Maybe I need to rethink my strategy and book NCL to the Caribbean out of NY? Rough seas seem to like NCL.

Ernie


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Ernst
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posted 01-21-2006 12:04 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...consider some North Sea or Baltic ferries during winter.
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GregD
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posted 01-21-2006 12:23 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Here I book January North Atlantic crossings hoping for seas like the SPIRIT encountered ... and nothing! Maybe I need to rethink my strategy and book NCL to the Caribbean out of NY? Rough seas seem to like NCL.

Ohhhhhhhh... I'd love to be on a ship in a storm. I always though it would be neat to be out on the top decks watching the horizon rise and fall.
-Greg


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nycruiser
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posted 01-21-2006 01:25 PM      Profile for nycruiser   Email nycruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
eroller you should rethink your strategy! I did the Dawn the first week of September this past year. And I knew what I was in for! While not as impressive as what the Spirit encountered we hit 25-30' foot waves as we dodged two hurricanes. The ship shuttered everytime we hit a wave! At one point they seemed to be cresting at the top of the bow. It was very exciting to me. I sat almost the entire day in the observation lounge on the Dawn (Spinnakers) and watched natures show. Luckily I didnt even get seasick.
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eroller
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posted 01-21-2006 01:31 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I definitely think a late Fall or Winter cruise on NCL out of NY to the Caribbean will be in order!

Ernie


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Italianliners
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posted 01-21-2006 01:59 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that in south atlantic in some months the sea is very rough, mainly in the Cape Horn. I will make a cruise to Ushuaia in february and i don't know what to expect...

Italianliners


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kaiser
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posted 01-21-2006 02:25 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rough seas are AWESOME. I remember a few years back going to Vancouver Island on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay ferry run (to Victoria) and we were the last sailing to leave prior to the sailings being suspended due to a storm.

It was so cool ... the ferry was rolling and pitching and yawing. I was like a little kid running from side to side of the ship and up and down the deck outside - dashing in for a bite to eat and then back out as most other passengers were going green.

We were in the middle of Georgia Straight with high winds and rough seas. Couldn't guess as to how high they were, but the Vancouver/Victoria area doesn't get big bad storms like they do in the Atlantic or Caribbean ... 2 or 3 meters at the most maybe.

Our ferries are typically flat bottomed, not too good for rough seas so any swell is felt ...

When I cruise I like one of the sea days to be a bit rough ... my ship mates think I'm nuts!

Regards, Kaiser


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NAL
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posted 01-21-2006 02:53 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My absolute favorite ship in heavy seas is QE2!
I really like her "movement." I never liked
France as much in heavy sea, but many others did.
I always thought her pitch [rise and fall] was too
slow.......IMHO

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Frosty 4
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posted 01-23-2006 05:57 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.oceanweather.com/data/index.html

Try this web site for sea state. I've been checking the maps for our "Around the Horn" cruise on the Millenium starting 2/5. Hasn't been too bad from what I can tell.
Roughest waters I've been in where off of San Francisco on a big aircraft carrier. (USS Ranger)San Andreas fault might have something to do with it as it exits into the ocean near there.
Frosty4


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bulbousbow
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posted 01-23-2006 06:27 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Frosty 4 wrote:
San Andreas fault might have something to do with it as it exits into the ocean near there.

In what way? Are you talking about underwater earthquakes, something like the one off Sumatra just over a year ago that produced a tsunami?

High winds (bad weather) cause rough seas. Also ocean currents and high winds together make even rougher seastates, but not by an under fault line.

******

Cheers


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 01-23-2006 07:30 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
First I'm glad no one was injured. Second ... I WISH I WAS THERE!! I miss out on all the fun.

Here I book January North Atlantic crossings hoping for seas like the SPIRIT encountered ... and nothing! Maybe I need to rethink my strategy and book NCL to the Caribbean out of NY? Rough seas seem to like NCL.

Ernie


A rough voyage can be fun but it does get old after one day of not being able to stand up! My best friend and I were on a QE2 crossing in April, 1991 and it was very windy and quite rough for a few days. The ship was leaning sharply to port for two days because of a fierce wind from the south. On the 2nd day of bad weather, QE2 was lifting out of the water between the swells and would crash down-hard with a loud rumbling noise. On the lower deck corridors, you could see the ship bend very clearly and that was a sight! We were not allowed on the starboard side of the boat deck because of the intense wind gusts and the port side was no better because the ocean spray pelted the deck-it was an indoor crossing. On more that one occasion we could hear glass breaking (dishes, drink glasses etc.) after she dug herself into another swell and down she would go. Looking out from the aft facing lido windows, the horizon line was constantly changing from grey skies to darker grey water and then back again. That view really started to sour my stomach!


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Maasdam
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posted 01-24-2006 03:52 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
...consider some North Sea or Baltic ferries during winter.

Agree. Storm lovers would love it.
Specially the thundering noise that carferry's make whene hitting the water. The cardecks give it a extra horrible sound.

1 crossing specially it was a/b the Stena Line m.s. Koningin Beatrix early 1990 was together with 2 friends on oure way back to Hoek van Holland. Whene she encounters bad wether on the North Sea.
Passengers/crew flaying in the round, falling down the stairs. A dozen of cars braking loose frome there chainse. Furniture flaying in the round brooken glas every where and male passenger who was screaming that we where doomed. He yelled OH LORD WY YOU HAVE LEAVE US. NOW WE WE AL ARE DOOMED. that several times til someone told him to shut up his $%#@$%#&*^%!

We had luck no one was wonded only some damage to several cars and trucks. And a lot of glas brooken. The captain told us that there was on one moment a gale of 10. And that the storm worsend frome 2 houres after we left Harwich.

I cane tell you we where verry happy to get of frome the ship. Happy after this horror crossing i took several crossings to Britten and never again have experians such heavy storms.

Greetings Ben.


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Tom Burke
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posted 01-24-2006 06:03 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One thing I do wonder - if the sea can be rough and powerful enough to move a 90,000 ship about like a cork, what on earth is it like for Ellen Macarthur (and others like her) in the southern ocean?
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-24-2006 06:47 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
- if the sea can be rough and powerful enough to move a 90,000 ship about like a cork, what on earth is it like for Ellen Macarthur...

It's not an issue as the likes of Ellen Macartur are completely insane!


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Frosty 4
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posted 01-24-2006 12:36 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My comment on the rough seas off SF where based on that it's always rough there. Just a guess as to what causes this???
F4

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bulbousbow
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posted 01-25-2006 01:12 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Frosty 4 wrote:
My comment on the rough seas off SF where based on that it's always rough there. Just a guess as to what causes this???

No worries. Bet you it is a combination of ocean currents and the wind. Do a google search and see what comes up.

******

Cheers


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sslewis
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posted 01-25-2006 09:13 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcom,
Dame Ellen may be insane, but she is now a Dame!
Ernie, alias Eroller, I am so sorry you were not on NCL Spirit!
I experienced such rolling on mvRegent Star before a Denny-Brown stabiliser engineer boarded....
Try QM2 from Rio, with only 3 pods, and possibly at greatly reduced fare!

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LB76
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posted 01-25-2006 04:43 PM      Profile for LB76     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi All
I am a retired concession cruise ship worker who was blessed with never suffering from sea sickness and i too always loved rough seas. I experienced a fantastic storm aboard Black Prince but i can tell you that my heart went out to some of the other crew onboard. Not only did they work there butts off for silly hours and silly pay but they also personally suffered sea sickness, kept awake in their precious sleeping hours because of waves crashing against the pitts of the ship and for some of the new crew quite scared. Then greeted people with a smile at breakfast. Bravo thats what i say.

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