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Rex
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posted 12-15-2006 01:01 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm going based on pics I've seen and the three cruises I have been on, but what ships today does the TP crew think have the most Art Deco interiors?

I think:
Deutschland
QM2
Millenium Class?

Which ones do you think?


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posted 12-15-2006 01:05 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To add one... The Disney Magic.
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NAL
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posted 12-15-2006 07:18 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would never think of the Deutschland as "art deco."
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mike sa
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posted 12-15-2006 07:23 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Got to be careful here, what we might refer to as "Art deco" might be better called Ocean Liner style, certainly QM2 has references of Art Deco but is much more Ocean Liner style, Deutchland is definately not Art deco and again the Millenium class have hints and references only.

Actually the most AD modern ship I have seen is the original Star Princess albeit in a modern context, the foyer with its stainless steel and white banding and very AD light fittings and certainly the Entre Nous lounge (and to some extent the restaurant) was very AD, that said I hated the decor on the ship, it was really neither here or there, mostly bland and cheap looking, also VERY overfurnished so much so they transferred hundreds of chairs etc to the old Dawn and Fair Princess's to get rid of it - you could hardly walk down the corridor on Prom deck and of course the original Observation Lounge was a diaster.

AD could be both very simple and then also extremely elaborate and colourful, then of course we all get confused with Art Nouveux. (spelling?).


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posted 12-15-2006 09:18 AM      Profile for Iberian Cruiser   Email Iberian Cruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Deutschland, no doubt. I don´t consider the QM2 a right candidate.
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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 12-15-2006 09:23 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think Deutschland is more traditional. QM2 has a predominant Art Deco interior and even exterior mixed with traditional.
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Linerdan
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posted 12-15-2006 07:15 PM      Profile for Linerdan   Email Linerdan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I feel that Deutschland protrays more of an Edwardian era feel than anything.She is Slighty pre Art-deco.
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NAL
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posted 12-15-2006 07:50 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think of the Deutschland as faux Edwardian, but very nice for those who like it. I get the feeling of AD on the QM2, but not entirely.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-15-2006 08:46 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
I think of the Deutschland as faux Edwardian, but very nice for those who like it. I get the feeling of AD on the QM2, but not entirely.

QM2 does of bits of Deco/Moderne style onboard. The chrome elevator doors and stairwell railings have an Deco/Moderne feel to them. Illuminations is very Deco while the Britannia Restaurant has hints of QMs 1st class restaurant. The rest of the ship IMO has a modern international look except for a room here and there . Deutschland in many ways could have appeared pre WWI except of course for the modern materials used in her interior construction.


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Rex
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posted 12-15-2006 10:54 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Martini Bar on the Carnival Victory to me had that 30's Deco feel -- which is totally ruined by the fact that the disco is right above it. The dining rooms too, but Farcus ruined that by too much glitz.

The Brilliance class girls and the Celebrity kids have very AD interiors, the dining rooms in particular.


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posted 12-19-2006 07:42 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
I think of the Deutschland as faux Edwardian, but very nice for those who like it.

Yes, the Deutschland is certainly NOT generally Art Deco in style at all:

The "Grand Hotel" decor evokes the splendor of the Edwardian period and the Roaring Twenties through the use of brass, marble, tiffany ceilings and resplendent upholstery in the lounges.

Many modern cruise ships have a mix of styles, such as Art Deco, Edwardian, Georgian, Victorian and Contemporary etc. The QE2 for example probably has the lot!

The QM2 doe have many Art Deco features. Brilliance and QM2's dining rooms are both inspired by the Original Queen Mary's Art Deco dining room and are both by Tilberg.

Its amazing to think that when the original Queen Mary was new, her then contemporary Art Deco interiors were considered shocking/inferior compared to what had gone before.

The Monarch (a traditionalist) allegedly wrote in her diary after touring the ship: “Not as bad as I had expected”.

[ 12-19-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 12-19-2006 12:33 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Its amazing to think that when the original Queen Mary was new, her then contemporary Art Deco interiors were considered shocking/inferior compared to what had gone before.
[ 12-19-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]

That didn't last. She ended up being the most succesful liner of her time. I love her insides. IMO there a little better then the Normandie. Don't get me wrong I love the Normandie to death but shes a just little over the top for my taste.


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linerguy
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posted 12-19-2006 05:19 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"IMO there a little better then the Normandie."

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Maasdam
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posted 12-20-2006 01:07 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
"IMO there a little better then the Normandie."

Yes tss. Nieuw Amsterdam 2 (1938)

Greetings Ben.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-20-2006 01:53 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ss Nieuw Amsterdam was actually decorated in a Art Moderne style which was popular in the late 1930s through the 1940s. The more ornate Art Deco style was popular from the later 1920s through the mid 1930s.
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linerguy
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posted 12-20-2006 04:44 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ben:

Are saying N.A.2 was a better decorated ship than NORMANDIE?

-Russ


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desirod7
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posted 12-20-2006 06:15 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
Ben:

Are saying N.A.2 was a better decorated ship than NORMANDIE?

-Russ


Hi Russ and Ben,

It is like asking which one of your children do you love more; unless your the dad in East of Eden.

Both are tour de force and IMO Nieuw Amsterdam is more 'downtown' where Le Normandie more 'uptown'

From looking at the photos Nieuw Amsterdam has better decorated cabin and tourist digs than Normandie.

PS: I had found out that Queen Mary 1 had better load factors than the Normandie due to QM's better tourist class facilities. It was NOT due to the overpowering first class on Le Normandie.


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linerguy
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posted 12-21-2006 01:57 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Dave,..

Your point regarding the two ships (NORMANDIE and N.A. 2) is well taken. And while I understand that preference is a personal thing, and I certainly wouldn't think of robbing anyone of their opinion, when one is making comparisons, they have to meet you at least half way. In other words, NORMANDIE and the lovely N.A.2 were worlds apart and not in the same league as each other. Rarely are the two ships discussed in the same breath,...if ever.

And as far as NORMANDIE and QM's load factors are concerned, yes, the Cunarder had better load factors,...she held more passengers ( at least in tourist and third class). It's interesting to note that, during her time in service ('35 to '39), NORMANDIE was profitable to the tune of 165 million francs,...after expenses. In fact, her profits actually quadrupled during the short time she was in service; which means that, after the war, she was sorely missed as far as competition goes. And since she wasn't around to give Cunard a run for their money, the numbers will always be slanted towards QM.

Russ


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posted 12-21-2006 09:47 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
Hi Dave,..

In other words, NORMANDIE and the lovely N.A.2 were worlds apart and not in the same league as each other. Rarely are the two ships discussed in the same breath,...if ever.

And as far as NORMANDIE and QM's load factors are concerned, NORMANDIE was profitable to the tune of 165 million francs,...after expenses. In fact, her profits actually quadrupled during the short time she was in service;
Russ


I would believe the NA2 was a much less expensive ship to build. The Empress of Britain 2: a fair comparison to the NA2 was 1/5 the cost of the Normandie to build.

It is comparing a C class Mercedes to an S class Mercedes. However both are nice driving experiences.

I was back to back from the QM1 to the Regal Empress and noticed the postwar ship used less expensive materials.

Either way, the materials and craftsmanship levels on whats left of the Regal Empress and Topaz or simply unnattainable today.


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Maasdam
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posted 12-21-2006 11:03 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
David and Russ.

I agree with you both.

Greetings Ben.


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linerguy
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posted 12-21-2006 11:06 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dave:

I would agree 100% that N.A.2 and EMPRESS OF BRITAIN are more of a fair comparison (though I prefer the Canadian Pacific ship over the Dutch ship hands down). Though I will say that N.A.2's exterior was far more modern for the time...but, then again she was a few years younger.

And, yes, NORMANDIE was incredibly more expensive to build than the Holland America ship,...which is another reason they shouldn't be compared to each other.

-Russ


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