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Topic: Will Carnival Sell off the Fantasy Class Ships???

Rex
First Class Passenger
Member # 1113

posted 01-03-2007 07:31 PM

The Fantasy is 17 years old now, do you think Micky will start relieving himself of these ships??? They have a small amount of balconies too, would this be a factor????

[ 01-04-2007: Message edited by: Rex ]

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-03-2007 07:40 PM

I don't really know, but 17 years is NOT so old. Although I don't think RCI has ships much older than a decade, at present. NCL's fleet is getting younger.

Balconies are always a factor. They may refit and add some balconies if possible and squeeze out another five years from them? Maybe not?

I assume if 'Pinnacle' ever arrives, old tonnage will be shed then.

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reeves35
First Class Passenger
Member # 6021

posted 01-03-2007 07:47 PM

As long as they don't send them P&O Australia!!!!

We already seem like the last stop on the way to Alang Beach.

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Atlcruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4586

posted 01-03-2007 10:11 PM

Don't look for these ships to go anywhere anytime soon. All of the Fantasy class ships are now working the three, four and five day itineraries and they make lots of money for Carnival. Carnival is spending money each year refurbishing them. So far the Fantasy, Ecstasy, Sensation and Fascination have been refursbished. They can get away with less balconies on the shorter runs. RCI has three ships currently doing the three and four day itineraries and they also lack a large amount of balconies.

The next two ships to leave the fleet will be the Holiday and Celebration.

Gordon

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 01-03-2007 10:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Atlcruiser:

The next two ships to leave the fleet will be the Holiday and Celebration.
Gordon
[ 01-03-2007: Message edited by: Atlcruiser ]

If they leave the Carnival family my bet would be Louis Cruise Lines. The standard non-compete clause will work fine since Carnival does not service the Mediterranean.

They were state of the art for the time, and IMO are more liveable than the current Louis fleet.

They can provision for 7 days so no matter how well they are redecorated they are not long distance cruisers.

Rex, the Holiday class and Fantasy class are deployed in cruise backwaters such as Mobile, Galveston, Savannah, Gulfport with little competition. Many there are first time cruisers who know nothing else and the 4 day jaunts are notorious for booze, gambling, and gluttony.

Here is a parallel thread
Carnival Fascination out of Mobile, Ala.

[ 01-03-2007: Message edited by: desirod7 ]

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Cunard Fan
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Member # 7530

posted 01-04-2007 12:06 AM

They also sail out of Long Beach.

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sealeg claude
First Class Passenger
Member # 5565

posted 01-04-2007 12:44 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by desirod7:
[QB]

If they leave the Carnival family my bet would be Louis Cruise Lines. The standard non-compete clause will work fine since Carnival does not service the Mediterranean.

Good evening,
I beg to differ here...Carnival Liberty does Med Cruises during the summer and early fall....
However, it certainly would not impact the rest of your arguments as Louis also does the Med, thus there wouldn't be a difference for Carnival PLC to worry about.
Cheers
Claude G

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 01-04-2007 07:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sealeg claude:
[QBGood evening,
I beg to differ here...Carnival Liberty does Med Cruises during the summer and early fall....[/QB]

Let's no forget Carnival's Costa!

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 01-04-2007 08:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Let's no forget Carnival's Costa!

Loius is more of a Greek Islands cruiser and Eastern Mediterranian. Western Med is served by very modern ships: Carnival or otherwise as Sealeg Claude pointed out.

However, Carnival may just send the remaining Holiday class to P&O Australia. I doubt they would go to Pullmantour. Iberojet: maybe

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Salaison
First Class Passenger
Member # 4722

posted 01-04-2007 06:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by reeves35:
As long as they don't send them P&O Australia!!!!
We already seem like the last stop on the way to Alang Beach.

lol nice one...but we all know Australia is the first place there gonna reach... for all am concern they can turn them into container vessels !!

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