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Fairsky
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posted 06-20-2007 10:41 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The first photo of the Carnival Splendor has been released showing the funnel being transfered by barge.

This is definately a change from the funnel design on the previous Destiny/Conquest class ships. Notice the angled forward vent (normally a flat circle on previous ships), and the aft end of the funnel is a vented "birdcage" form similar to Carnival Pride/Spirit/Legend/Miracle.

Can anyone explain why the design was altered?


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Atlcruiser
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posted 06-20-2007 11:28 PM      Profile for Atlcruiser   Email Atlcruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks similar to that of the Spirit class but without the glass portion.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-21-2007 12:18 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Spirit Class has the red glass skylight at the forward portion-maybe this ship will feature glass at the aft portion?
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cruiseshipluver
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posted 06-21-2007 02:25 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I highly doubt there will be any glass integrated into this dirative of a Carnival funnel. I see a notch out in the blue aft end of the funnel but that might just signify that there will be integrated into a raised deck or some deck feature.
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Salaison
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posted 06-21-2007 03:48 PM      Profile for Salaison   Email Salaison   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
looks like spirit class funnel
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Fairsky
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posted 06-21-2007 04:02 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While the Spirit-class funnels have a vertical aft, this new design actually slants backward at the aft. But both designs have the vented opening in the blue area of the funnel.


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cruiseshipluver
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posted 06-21-2007 11:39 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
and the venting goes right to the base on the Spirit class. All the angles are different on this newer funnel but it does resemble a Spirit Class funnel. Anyone good with photoshop who can integrate the new funnel on to a Conquest class vessel (Slendour is one of those right?)
cruiseshipluver

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-22-2007 12:02 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
IMO, the thicker Spirit Class funnel is the best looking of all Carnival funnels.
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eroller
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posted 06-22-2007 08:22 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've always loved Carnival funnels (and the logo). I don't know why but I do.

I can't understand why SPLENDOR has a new funnel design. Clearly it will not incorporate a glass dome such as the Spirit Class ships, and SPLENDOR is essentially a Conquest Class ship so why the design change? We all know Carnival does not spend money on a redesign if they don't have to.

I've looked at the deck plans for SPLENDOR on the Carnival website, and I'm still not sure why the funnel could not have remained the same as on other Conquest Class ships. Something disappointing with the SPLENDOR is that her main lounge decks follow the typical Carnival arrangement rather than the Costa arrangement. I much prefer the Costa arrangement with the large dancing lounge and smaller casino. I guess it was a pipe dream to ever think Carnival would reduce the casino size!

I'm actually considering a cruise on SPLENDOR next year to Northern Europe. I swore I would never sail on a Conquest Class ship again but I guess I should never say never!

Ernie


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 06-22-2007 09:38 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's great that Carnival is spending more to design something new on only this ship, maybe this will be the funnel design to be found on the Dream and Magic. I like it, but the birdcage here looks bad (I usually like birdcage funnels).
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GregD
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posted 06-22-2007 08:39 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi all.
I just got back from a week away from a computer and saw this thread so I made up a quick edit of the ship. I used MS Paint so it's really not the best but here it is:

-Greg

[ 06-22-2007: Message edited by: GregD ]


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cruiseshipluver
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posted 06-23-2007 11:28 AM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now that above there I would have to get accustomed to. Just so accustomed to seeing the overly tall funnel with the decorative string lights rising up towards the funnel, that is trademark. I might be lost with this shorter design funnel.
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GregD
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posted 06-24-2007 08:59 PM      Profile for GregD   Author's Homepage   Email GregD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
Now that above there I would have to get accustomed to. Just so accustomed to seeing the overly tall funnel with the decorative string lights rising up towards the funnel, that is trademark. I might be lost with this shorter design funnel.
cruiseshipluver

Im sure it will be just as big as the current funnels of the origional carnival vessels


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-24-2007 09:03 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
I've always loved Carnival funnels (and the logo). I don't know why but I do.


Ernie


Could be their direct connection to the late 1960s Canadian Pacific livery combined w/ss France's funnel(s) design.


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eroller
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posted 06-24-2007 09:53 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy: Could be their direct connection to the late 1960s Canadian Pacific livery combined w/ss France's funnel(s) design.


You would think those were the reasons, but when I first heard of Carnival I had no idea of the logo origins, nor what the FRANCE funnel looked like. I think it has more to do with the fact that Carnival Cruise Lines was really my first introduction to the world of ships and cruising. My parents took a cruise on the CARNIVALE in 1976, and when they returned I was absolutely fascinated by the experience and the ship itself. I was only 10 years old at the time. I couldn't get enough information on the ship, and I still have their ticket packet to this day. I went on to take several cruises on Carnival as a child, and worked part time for them while attending college at University of Miami. I much prefer the more innocent Carnival of yesteryear over the more homogenized corporate giant today, but they will always have a special place in my heart.

Ernie


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lambcom
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posted 06-25-2007 04:02 PM      Profile for lambcom   Email lambcom   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is a story, perhaps an urban legend, which says that when Carnival bought its first ship from Canadian Pacific, they didn't have the time or money to do a complete re-paint of the funnel, so they modified the CP logo just enough to create a different identity and the Carnival logo of the last quarter century was born. Or so the story goes..

George+


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Fairsky
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posted 06-25-2007 05:15 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe the winged funnel was an original Farcus design for the Tropicale--Carnival's first newbuild. They wanted something instantly recognizable like Royal Caribbean's Viking Crown funnels.

This is one thing I will praise Farcus for. He developed one of the most recognized icons in the cruising world with his funnel. A brilliant branding idea that has endured the test of time. Carnival's funnels still look contemporary with very little change to the basic shape.


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 06-25-2007 06:07 PM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like Carnival ships, I just don't like that they are making too many clones. I'm sure this funnel design will work out just fine.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-25-2007 09:13 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lambcom:
There is a story, perhaps an urban legend, which says that when Carnival bought its first ship from Canadian Pacific, they didn't have the time or money to do a complete re-paint of the funnel, so they modified the CP logo just enough to create a different identity and the Carnival logo of the last quarter century was born. Or so the story goes..

George+


Carnival used the basic shape of CP's late 1960s green and white funnel livery when they purchased Empress of Canada. Carnival slightly altered the logo w/a more pronounced 'C' shape and changed the band colors to red, white and blue. During a later refit, the livery on Mardi Gras' funnel was modified again w/the white portion reduced and curved to a crescent shape that we see on Carnival ships today.


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Thad
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posted 06-25-2007 09:55 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CP Empress of Canada Livery from simplon..

Colors changed and triangle softened...

Revised stack with thinner more consistent "crescent"

I have to say what a pretty ship she was. She looked good in every livery, from CP to Royal Olympic.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-25-2007 10:39 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The middle view is from the early 1970s when Mardi Gras still had the kingposts aft and just forward of the bridge.

I would like to see a newbuild (a completely new design) from Carnival called 'Carnival Mardi Gras' in honor of their first (and best looking) ship. The sisters could be called 'Carnival Festivale and Tropicale'.


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posted 06-26-2007 12:41 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love the funnels on the old Carnival Ships. They are some of the most beautiful! IMO.
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elad
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posted 06-26-2007 12:19 PM      Profile for elad   Email elad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
You would think those were the reasons, but when I first heard of Carnival I had no idea of the logo origins, nor what the FRANCE funnel looked like. I think it has more to do with the fact that Carnival Cruise Lines was really my first introduction to the world of ships and cruising. My parents took a cruise on the CARNIVALE in 1976, and when they returned I was absolutely fascinated by the experience and the ship itself. I was only 10 years old at the time. I couldn't get enough information on the ship, and I still have their ticket packet to this day. I went on to take several cruises on Carnival as a child, and worked part time for them while attending college at University of Miami. I much prefer the more innocent Carnival of yesteryear over the more homogenized corporate giant today, but they will always have a special place in my heart.

Ernie


i must admit that Carnival have awarm place in my heart too.
when i was a child, Carnival seems to me like a legend. and i remember seeing their brochures, looking at the Jubillee, Ecstasy, Festivale (which , to my opinion was their best looking ship) and just dream about cruising onboard them
at some stage my big brother has worked for them.

today as an employee in a big tourist company's ceuise department i hapaned to sell just little of Carnival cause there are simply better cruise companies (like RCCL,HAL,CELEBRITY)

Elad


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posted 07-03-2007 03:09 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CARNIVAL SPLENDOR has been fitted with her new funnel, as seen in this latest photo: Carnival Splendor

Rich


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cruiseshipluver
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posted 07-03-2007 03:19 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm, it actually looks pretty good now it is onboard, what I do not like so far is the angle on the back of the funnel, it does not seem to fit back.but other wise i like it. I wonder if the mast design will remain the same?
cruiseshipluver

[ 07-03-2007: Message edited by: cruiseshipluver ]


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