In my bored, post-2nd-year-university-state, I have been pondering possible names P&O will call Ventura's sister, due for delivery in Spring 2010. I liked P&O's tradition of naming their ships after mythology, but since Ventura does not follow this trend, it's kinda hard to guess what P&O might name the new ship. Personally, I think P&O should go back to their recent tradition and use names from mythology again for the name of the new 116,000-tonner. What name would you like to see the ship be called? I have a few suggestions:

Diana (Roman Goddess of the moon, the hunt, and chastity ) - now I would have thought this would have been a perfect name for the renamed Artemis, as when she was the Royal Princess, she was named by Princess Diana.... (although there is a link with the name 'Artemis' and Diana according to wikipedia). Maybe she was called Artemis as opposed to Diana in following the greek mythological tradition...?

Athena (Greek goddess of wisdom)

Aphrodite (Greek goddess of love and beauty)

Isis (Egyptian goddess) Kinda radical to name a ship after an Egpytian goddess, but suited nonetheless.

Maybe they will resurrect an old name? They have had plenty of ships over the decades.

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Looking at the current fleet names Artimis really is the only one that is out of place because it does not end in "-a". This name was clearly a reference to Princess Diana, the original godmother of Royal Princess. However, the royal family probably would have had a cow if P&O named the ship Diana; a name that fits the brand's pattern ending in -a.

Here are some other ideas:

Aquila (mythological eagle of Zeus that carried his thunderbolts and constellation)

Iberia (former P&O name)

Canberra (former P&O name)

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Originally posted by Fairsky:
I was a bit surprised that Ventura wasn't named Canberra.

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I'm glad she's not. That name should be reserved for something more special than a Princess cl*n*.

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Secondly (Malcolm) let's all get over the effing clone argument. P&O has been reinvigorated by Carnival, as has Cunard. If we do all genuinely love ships then let's be grateful for any new British based ships we get.

With regard to the "clone" argument, why don't the Titanic and Britannic or the four Saxonia class or any other number of ships get slagged off on here as clones?

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Originally posted by mec1:

With regard to the "clone" argument, why don't the Titanic and Britannic or the four Saxonia class or any other number of ships get slagged off on here as clones?

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It could be argued that the Titanic was not a clone as she and her sisters had obvious differences.

So now P&O are naming there ships after cities in California.

But then again there are other cities with those names.

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Originally posted by mike sa:
Victoria

Then they can call them the V class and it ends in "a" and it is a historical P&O name.

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Other V names used by P & O for their ships in the past have included Valetta and Vectis.

They could of course go back to re-using some of the Strath names such as Strathmore, Stratheden, Strathaird and Strathnaver.

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Originally posted by mike sa:
Victoria

Then they can call them the V class and it ends in "a" and it is a historical P&O name.

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I don't think two British ships with almost the same name would be good: Cunard Queen Victoria, P&O Victoria, although I think it's one of the best names a P&O can have.

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Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

It could be argued that the Titanic was not a clone as she and her sisters had obvious differences.

So now P&O are naming there ships after cities in California.

But then again there are other cities with those names.

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Olympic and Titanic were built from exactly the same set of paper plans with the few Titanic changes drawn over the original - sounds like a clone to me

P&O Pasadena ? (well, it's just up the road from Ventura isn't it???

I wouldn't discount Canberra ....

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Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

So now P&O are naming there ships after cities in California.

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Originally posted by KenC:

P&O Pasadena ? (well, it's just up the road from Ventura isn't it???

Ken

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I still don't understand the name Ventura for a UK based ship-even though it is a nice name. Matson Line had a few ships w/Spanish names such as ss Monterey (a lovely small California coastal city) and ss Mariposa but those ships were based in California.

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Originally posted by mec1:
What a pathetic set of responses. First of all, P&O have NEVER relied on mythology, Greek or otherwise, for their names and Artemis is an exceotion and a rather subtle nod to Diana.

Agreed.

With regard to the "clone" argument, why don't the Titanic and Britannic or the four Saxonia class or any other number of ships get slagged off on here as clones?

The problem is not the fact that Carnival or any other line builds a series of sister ships. The problem is that Carnival Corp is placing these clones into different brands. We all want choice in the industry. I want Costa to have a uniquely Costa ship. The same is true for HAL, Princess, Cunard, and P&O. When the same basic hardware is found in every line it makes the industry less appealing.

Economy of scale has always been a sensible force and Carnival as - whether you love them or hate them - become the dominant force in the cruise industry. If they were utterly heartless, every "clone" would have the same funnel design, the same Farcus decor and the same menus and entertainment. But they are far cleverer than that.

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Originally posted by KenC:

Olympic and Titanic were built from exactly the same set of paper plans with the few Titanic changes drawn over the original - sounds like a clone to me

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I never said in my post that they weren't clones. I said it could be argued that they were not since there were several differences between the 2.
But I for one think that they are pretty much clones.

lasuvidaboy, just courious, did you grow up in Pasadena? I think you said something to that affect once.

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Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

lasuvidaboy, just courious, did you grow up in Pasadena? I think you said something to that affect once.

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Born there (Huntington Hospitol) but grew up in nearby San Marino. My family has been in and around there since the mid 1800s. For our British listers, San Marino has the fabulous Huntington Library and gardens which has one of the largest (if not the largest) collections of British manuscripts, decorative art, paintings etc. etc.. outside of Britain. The owner was Henry Huntington who also once owned the Newport News Shipbuilding Company, railroads etc. etc.

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Same here. Except I grew up in Burbank and Pasadena. And I have no idea on how long my familly has been there.

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Originally posted by Fairsky:
Dont' get me wrong, I'll give the Carnival people all the credit in the world for being smart and savvy business people. But as a cruise and ship enthusiast I'm not thrilled with their clone strategy. I much prefer the more innovative and original ship designs RCI and others are producing, even if they are less profitable for the shareholders.

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I not agree with you look at the RCI ships and it is boring. The latest classes look like clones. And seeing theme in real it was disappointing the sea green glass make theme look plastic fantastic. Then the Celebrity vessels looks like they are build up from Lego blocks ugly.

Why not name the ship P&O Freedom and rename all other P&O Aurora, P&O Oriana etc. etc. It opens a lot of new possibility's of names

I think 'Ventura' is supposed to mean adventure in the case of P&O - so expect some other name which sounds exotic but is a holiday type activity??