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Pullmantur Cruises added a new webpage on their website, MS "Moon Empress"
http://www.pullmanturcruises.com/moonempress.html
According to the photos, "Moon Empress" would be obviously the new name of the "Pacific", the former Love Boat "Pacific Princess"... But the ' "Empress Of The Seas" also must be transferred in this fleet in 2008...
Would not it be rather the new name of her ? "From "Empress Of The Seas" to "Moon Empress"...
mickael
ZENITH - Rondo Veneciano - Venecia, Venecia, Dubrovnik, navegación, Santorini, Rodas, Mikonos, Atenas. Y viceversa Desde el 17 de Marzo hasta 27 de Octubre
OCEAN DREAM (ex-Pacific Star) - Joyas del Mediterraneo - Barcelona, navegación, Tunez, Malta, Sicilia, Roma, Villefranche, Barcelona.Desde el 11 de Mayo hasta el 26 de Octubre
SKY WONDER - Islas Griegas y Turquía - Atenas, Atenas, Heraklion, Rodas, Kusadasi, Patmos, Estambul, Estambul. Y viceversa.Desde el 16 de Marzo hasta el 2 de Noviembre
OCEANIC - Brisas del Mediterraneo - Barcelona, Villefranche, Livorno, Roma, Nápoles, Túnez, navegación, Barcelona.Desde el 3 de Marzo hasta el 29 de Diciembre
MOON EMPRESS (ex-Empress of the Seas)Desde el 15 de Marzo hasta el 5 de Mayo- Antillas y Granadinas - Aruba, Curaçao, Isla Margarita, Grenada, Barbados, St. Vicent, navegación, Aruba. Posibilidad tambien deembarcar en Isla Margarita.
Desde el 24 de Mayo hasta el 20 de Septiembre- Capitales Bálticas - Copenhague, Gdansk, Klaipeda (Lituania), Estocolmo, Tallín, St. Petersburgo, St. Petersburgo, Helsinki. Yviceversa.
quote:Originally posted by Robertdam:On the French site Crocierenet.com the photo of empress of the seas is used for the cruises of Moon Empress so we will have to guess i think...
We don´t have to guess as the Empress of the Seas will become the Moon Empress
quote:Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:I preffer Empress of the Seas and I can just imagine how bad the Pullmantur livery will look on her.
Explain yourself, please. The NE will be handed over to Pullmanturs and can´t keep her present name!
[ 09-27-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:The Pullmantur livery is not that bad. First I also thought that it's awful - and I do not like it on Oceanic - but when I saw Zenith in real I changed my mind. [ 09-27-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]
Ernst,
The livery on Oceanic, Sky Wonder and now Zenith does not look bad at all.Why changing your mind on Zenith and not on Oceanic ? ?
quote:Originally posted by recab:Explain yourself, please. The NE will be handed over to Pullmanturs and can´t keep her present name!
What I meant is that I prefer EOTS under the Royal Caribbean brand, yes, the name must change.
I agree that Pullmantur should have a better naming system, maybe add the word Pullmantur before the name, for example: Pullmantur Empress, Pullmantur Ocean for Oceanic, and Pacific??? Will "Pacific" even sail the Pacific ocean?
as i have said before the ships of Pullmantur are quiet interesting
for livery they don't really seem to put a lot of effort in, Blue Dream and Blue Star retained their Renaissance colour scheme, although it has to be said those ships were originally chartered
however Blue Moon... got a blue "livery"when she was bought she was sailing as Delphin Renaissance with a white hull!!
now then... I agree with Ernst that Zenith has not become worse then she was with Celebrity coloursand I would say the same thing for Holiday Dream and Sky Wonder, it's actually not bad at all
so i can't see Carlos why you think the RCI livery is better looking then... it's seems boring to meis it a livery at all? just plain white with the RCI logo on the funnel?? everyone has it preferencesthough, so... first let's wait what she will look like with a blue funnel....
the shipnames of Pullmantur are a bit harder to understand, it's seems to lack so much imagination, no invention or whatever and may-bethat is a plus so completeley inconsistentsome ships retain their name... Oceanic and Zenithother's get slight alterations and i like Sky Wonder and Moon Empress (it keeps a bit of history there)but some Holiday Dream , Blue Dream, Blue MoonOcean Dream. well i don't know may-be they like dreaming a lot..
what to say about Oceanic II? sometimes it really makes scratch your head, probably that's why i like Pullmantur as a cruiseline, a bit out of the ordinary
will RCCI keep up that strategy???
best regardsb. Joe
[ 09-28-2007: Message edited by: buddhaJoe ]
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:Instead of the awful Blue Moon why not a Spanish name like 'Reina del Mar'. A few British and U.S. liners etc. had lovely Spanish names for passenger ships so why does'nt Pullmantur?
According to someone in Spain, the Spanish public won't sail on a ship with a Spanish name.English names are more interesting despite the fact that native English speaking people think they are awful.
Willem
<quote>Names in English sound more fashionable to Pullmantur passengers.Problably someone speaking English wouldn´t be that impressed, but someone with no idea of what these names mean, find them more trendy than calling then Ciudad de Barcelona, Cervantes, or whatever. Not many people speak english over here, and English names sound owwww .... impressive for some people.<unquote>
quote:Originally posted by Willem:According to someone in Spain, the Spanish public won't sail on a ship with a Spanish name.English names are more interesting despite the fact that native English speaking people think they are awful.Willem
That is interesting. I recall reading that many postwar Italian immigrants preferred crossing on the Independence/Constitution over their national flag liners. Then there were the German liners of the early 20th Century that had ships w/U.S. related names.
The Independence still had signage in Italian before her mid 1990s refit. The beautifully designed 1950s electric signs were located in many parts of the ship but I don't remember seeing them after her rebuilding.
But then again they didn't call HOLIDAY DREAM "SUPERSTAR" or (amazingly) SKY WONDER "PACIFIC II", so there.
While the names do sound silly in English (SKY WONDER is still the most ridiculous-sounding one to me, but MOON EMPRESS is close), Pullmantur's naming scheme is at least never boring, not something one can say for many other cruise lines!
As for the livery, as far as I am concerned they ruined the appearance of this ship when they painted out all the blue "racing stripes". Now that she is all white she just looks like a big slab-sided box which, in fact, is what she is.
But I am not a fan of the Pullmantur livery either - to me it is very amateurish looking and as a rule I do not like it when a cruise line's name is plastered across the hull like that. Also it is rather inconsistently applied - e.g. look at the "Pullmantur Cruises" font on OCEANIC and then on ZENITH. The overall result is not something that looks very professional and I can't say it's very attractive either... Though I will concede that ZENITH looks better than her poor sister does in the dreadful Island Cruises livery and indeed, OCEANIC II looked better as such than she did as MONA LISA, unquestionably the worst cruise ship livery I have ever seen.
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