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Robertdam
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posted 11-27-2007 12:10 PM      Profile for Robertdam   Author's Homepage   Email Robertdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From cruisebusiness.com:

A helicopter dispached from a Royal Navy warship helped to foil a potential pirate attack on Seabourn Spirit in the Arabian Sea. The 5,200 ton frigate HMS Campbeltown sent a Lynx helicopter capable of firing air to surface missiles, torpedoes and which is fitted with a machine gun 120 miles away on the coast of Oman to assist Seabourn Spirit after it had called for help. The ship’s master had raised the alarm after small skiffs had started to close in. The call was picked up by Royal Navy command in Bahrain. The skiffs had disappeared by the time the helicopter that can make 180 knots reached the ship, media reports say. Seabourn Spirit is one of three virtually identical 10,000 gross ton ships operated by Carnival Corp & PLC’s luxury brand Seabourn Cruise Line.

Not the first time a Seabourn ship comes under attack...


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P&OOfficer
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posted 11-27-2007 12:40 PM      Profile for P&OOfficer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From MarineLog

November 26, 2007

Seabourn Spirit saved from another brush with pirates

Just two years after outrunning pirates off Somalia, the cruise liner Seabourn Spirit has been saved from a potential repeat attack.

Royal Navy warship HMS Campbeltown responded to a call for help from Seabourn Spirit taken at the Bahrain headquarters of Royal Navy and coalition operations in the Gulf, as the liner transited for Muscat, Oman.

The cruise ship's crew had grown increasingly concerned about small skiffs believed to be pirates closing on their position.

Over 120 nautical miles away Campbeltown's maritime attack Lynx helicopter was dispatched to the scene, armed with its machine gun to reassure the cruise liner, and if necessary intercept the pirates.

By the time the helicopter reached the liner the skiffs had disappeared.

The helicopter's presence greatly reassured the passengers on board and the Royal Navy has been officially thanked for its assistance by the ship's captain, himself ex-Royal Navy.

Navy News Service notes that Campbeltown's actions have reassured vessels transiting through the Combined Task Force 150 Joint Operating Area that the coalition warships are effective at supporting requests for help in any direction.

Campbeltown Commanding Officer, Cmdr. Gordon Abernethy, Royal Navy, said, "It is extremely rewarding to be of assistance and know that our presence reassures law-abiding mariners going about their normal business."

Campbeltown is currently one month into a seven-and-a-half month deployment east of the Suez Canal. Up to and including Christmas, the ship is operating in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 11-27-2007 05:13 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi all

Lets hope the 1961 built, Portuguese owned, classic cruise ship ' mv Funchal ' has no problems with pirates as she is now enroute from Safaga, which she was scheduled to call at on the 26th November, through the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea to Male in the Maldive Islands, where she is due to arrive on the 5th December.

She then continues her voyage to Fremantle in West Australia via Phuket in Thailand, Langkawi and Port Klang in Malaysia, Singapore and is scheduled to arrive in Fremantle on the 20th December.

Her cruising speed is given in the brochures as 16 knots but leaving Pireaus, at the start of this trip, she was cruising at 16.7 knots according to the local AIS reports.

Neil ( Bob )


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sympatico
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posted 11-27-2007 05:16 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can't believe this happened again to the Spirit.

Two years ago my friends were on the ship when it was attacked and when I told them it happened again, they couldn't believe it. They will never forget that trip.

[ 11-27-2007: Message edited by: sympatico ]


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PamM
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posted 11-27-2007 05:52 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This may or may not have been pirates, just being on the lookout for anything untoward. They don't even tell us where the ship was, or when this occurred. In transit to Muscat means she was only popping round from Dubai. I suspect this may have been 10 days to 2 weeks ago when she was in the Gulf of Aden/Arabian Sea. It's Melody who is damn close to the Somali coastline at present.

Pam


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dougnewman
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posted 11-27-2007 06:48 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with Pam; nowhere does it say there actually were pirates but merely that the master called in help as a precaution as he saw something that made him a bit nervous. So the headlines are a bit sensationalistic. Either the pirates were scared off once they saw she was a cruise ship (as they were gone by the time help arrived), or they were not pirates altogether.

The previous attack was very unusual in that it is extremely rare that pirates will ever attack a cruise ship. I imagine passenger ships are about the most difficult things, short of military vessels, to attack if you are a pirate.


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Robertdam
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posted 11-28-2007 05:32 PM      Profile for Robertdam   Author's Homepage   Email Robertdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, i think that is not really true. It is known that containerships and bulkcarriers sailing through these waters are mostly very prepared for attacks and some of them even have arms on board to counterreact. I can not imagine cruiseships sailing with armed crew, even her, so i think cruiseships can be just an somewhat easier target then others.
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Ernst
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posted 11-28-2007 06:44 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No merchant ship is allowed to carry arms.

[ 11-28-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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PamM
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posted 11-28-2007 06:53 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Containers & Cargo vessels may only have 20 members of crew, or even less, aboard to counteract; cruise ships have hundreds.

Pam


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Ernst
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posted 11-28-2007 07:24 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cruise ships are certainly more complicated targets but one must not forget that not all criminals are smart, well informed (they might not expect a cruise ship) or act rationally. (like suicide bombers) Finally, if one acts following reasonable 'rules' one usually would not commit a crime first place - this reason alone one has to expect 'stupid' crimes.
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posted 11-29-2007 03:47 AM      Profile for CruisingOAP     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
This may or may not have been pirates, just being on the lookout for anything untoward. They don't even tell us where the ship was, or when this occurred. In transit to Muscat means she was only popping round from Dubai.

Pam


Have sailed three times on Seabourn Spirit which is a lovely ship. Once from Dubai along coast of Oman with one stop in Khasab, then two days cruising the Gulf of Oman, stopping then in Salalah before cruising down the the Gulf of Aden and heading into the Red Sea. Unfortunately we bypassed Muscat which I would have liked to see.

The Seabourn Ships are not really Cruise Liners but sail as large luxury yachts and pirates might think they offer rich pickings. At least that seemed to be the case when pirates first thought they could board the Spirit and fired rocket propelled grenades at the ship. This happened off the Somali coast two years ago. My friends were on the ship then and it was quite frightening.
I just wonder, should small (yacht like) cruisehips in future avoid dodgy areas (like along the Omani and Somali coasts or the South China Sea). The Big liners should be safe.


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posted 11-29-2007 03:53 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
This may or may not have been pirates..

Well one of them had a wooden leg, a hook for a hand, an eye patche and Parrot on his shoulders!


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PamM
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posted 11-29-2007 04:32 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You watch too many movies Malcolm

You will just have to go back CruisingOAP, Muscat is a wonderful place to visit. Rightly or wrongly I have always felt that 'attack' on Seabourn Spirit was done by pirates who did not have a clue what she actually was. They saw a vessel on their radar and headed over expecting a small cargo ship ripe for easy pickings, only to get far more than they bargained for. Maybe they learned a lesson and they were pirates on the 2nd attempt, who on approach saw that she was a small cruise ship and skiddadled. We won't ever find out, just thankful there was no incident.

Pam


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posted 11-29-2007 05:52 AM      Profile for CruisingOAP     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi PamM,

I agree "We won't ever find out, just thankful there was no incident".

A real nasty incident would have done immeasurable damage to cruising, which is one of the few pleasures left for sad old OAPs like me.


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