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Pascal
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posted 04-04-2008 01:06 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've just saw that on the French TV. She was seized today by Somalian Pirats during her repositionning crossing from Seychelles to the Med. Fortunately, there's no passengers onboard, but still there are 30 crew members...
I will see if I can have extra info...

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Globaliser
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posted 04-04-2008 01:56 PM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Taken from a post on another board: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/04/cruiseship.pirates.ap/index.html
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PamM
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posted 04-04-2008 02:08 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh dear I believe it is also the French Navy which command the Task Force at present?

Pam


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dougnewman
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posted 04-04-2008 05:29 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very scary.

I hope the ship and most importantly her crew come out of this ordeal unharmed. My thoughts are with everyone on board.

At least CIP had the good sense not to sail in this area of the world with passengers, but if it were my ship I would want some ex-special forces types on board!


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Johan
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posted 04-04-2008 06:49 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just saw it also on the news.
Very scary indeed.
The French prime minister was in Brussels today, and he said that he was monitoring the situation minute to minute, and that France has an "assez importante force militaire" (i think this were his words) in the area, and that the Pirate Plan was being applied.
I hope all goes well.
This was not supposed to happen in the 21th century.

J


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PamM
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posted 04-05-2008 04:22 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can read a bit about the CTF 150 here. Le Ponant is so small the pirates probably thought they were capturing a private vessel full of riches. Unfortunately the only thing in this for them is crew hostage Let's hope for a quick non-bloody conclusion. She was captured here:-

Both Queen Victoria and Costa Romantica have passed through recently.


Pam


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mike sa
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posted 04-05-2008 11:31 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You would think owners of these smaller potential target vessels would think twice about using the route unaccompanied. I hope she and her crew is released safely.
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posted 04-05-2008 04:11 PM      Profile for Iberian Cruiser   Email Iberian Cruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well not so small PAM, 64 cabins makes her really big for rich private owners. Of course there are bigger yachts but not so many

My solidarity to the cruise line, which is fact is my favourite one. I do expect all be released soon, and that I don´t know any of them.

It´s really disturbing.


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dougnewman
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posted 04-05-2008 06:21 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Iberian Cruiser:
Well not so small PAM, 64 cabins makes her really big for rich private owners.
32 cabins, not 64. 64 is the number of berths.

She is quite small for a cruise ship, though very large for a yacht.


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mike sa
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posted 04-06-2008 01:18 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For once the media is not calling it a "luxury cruise ship", in fact they all the rpeorts I have seen ( not that it is big headlines anywhere I have seen) just refer to her as a yacht. I suppose if pax had been on board.....
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posted 04-06-2008 04:57 AM      Profile for Iberian Cruiser   Email Iberian Cruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, yes. I meant 64 passangers.
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mike sa
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posted 04-06-2008 09:55 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have to retract, our Sunday Independent called her "luxury cruise ship" they also carried some good pics of the hijackers walking around the decks.
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posted 04-06-2008 10:48 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are there any news?
I hope this situation can be resolved without casualties.

[ 04-11-2008: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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Pascal
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posted 04-06-2008 12:50 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She's now sailing in Somalia territorial waters and is probably heading to the pirats home port, where it's expected they will make their ransom demand. According to CMA-CGM, the crew is fine. The vessel is followed (at distance) by a French Navy vessel and other ships are heading to its position. It is rumoured that the "commandos de marine" are ready to intervene.
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posted 04-06-2008 04:53 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It appears that the Ponant arrived destination and that Pirats established contact.
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mike sa
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posted 04-07-2008 08:46 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The french are sending a "police" squad to help deal with it.

NO more ransoms paid please, as long as they think they will get paid they will keep doing this, then it will only be a matter of time before innocents are killed. If they get away with it again it is only a matter of time before they hijack a ship with pax on.

The international community (whatever that means - read as in Zimbabwe) needs to pull their collective fingers out and deal with Somalia where these guys operate from. Of course forgot neither have oil................so much for the fight against terror.


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 04-07-2008 03:35 PM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some pictures of the highjackers onboard.


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posted 04-11-2008 07:18 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pirates have released hostages.
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posted 04-11-2008 08:27 AM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Lloyd's List:

THE 30-plus crew members of CMA CGM-owned French cruise ship Le Ponant have been released by the pirates who have been holding them aboard the vessel off the Somali coast for the last week.

Sources close to the French presidency, which announced the news late this morning, said that the liberation had been achieved by negotiation and without armed intervention.

“No shots were fired,” said one source. “Everything went off calmly”

The French presidency added that no details of the circumstances of the liberation would be released until French president Nicolas Sarkozy had been able to meet relatives of crew members at the end today afternoon.

Foreign affairs minister Bernard Kouchner said that the French government would be organising the return of the crew members to France as soon as possible.

Twenty two of the Ponant’s crew members are French. The others are understood to be Filipino and Ukrainian.

The vessel, which was seized by the pirates at the entry to the Gulf of Aden last Friday afternoon, has been lying off the coastal town of Garacad, south of the port of Eyl, since Sunday.

Local sources indicated that it was being held by one of the best organised pirate groups known as the Somali Marines. The group is reported to be organised as a military group under tribal warlord protection, with ransom talks conducted by a separate “business” structure.

The French authorities were known to have established contact with the pirates or their representatives as early as last Sunday but there has been little news about the vessel and its crew since then.

A local non-governmental organisation, Somali Tribal Rights Watch, said on Wednesday that it had provided the vessel with water and food at the pirates’ request.


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Ernst
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posted 04-11-2008 10:09 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It says that the crew has been released - what about the ship?
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posted 04-11-2008 10:31 AM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
It says that the crew has been released - what about the ship?

I believe Le Ponant has been handed over by the pirates also. The rest of the world's media seems more concerned with the people involved than the vessel. Clearly they do not have the same priorities as CruiseTalk.


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posted 04-11-2008 10:38 AM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agence France-Presse has more information:

French luxury sailing ship Le Ponant, whose crew have been freed by pirates, is expected in Djibouti next Tuesday, a spokesman for the owners of the vessel said.

"Le Ponant is expected in Djibouti on Tuesday, with or without the crew. We do not yet have details on the way in which they will be repatriated," said Jean-Louis Gaudaire, a spokesman for CMA-CGM, on Friday.

"It takes several days of sailing from where they are to reach Djibouti and the boat goes a lot slower than the navy. It is possible the skipper will stay on board with navy crew to bring the boat back under escort," he said.

The French presidency announced earlier Friday that the pirates had released the 30 crew, including six Filipinos and 22 French nationals, who had been held for a week.


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mike sa
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posted 04-11-2008 10:52 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ransom paid ? Hope not.
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posted 04-11-2008 03:57 PM      Profile for timb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Acoording to this article yes a ransom was paid but some recovered
http://www.france24.com/en/20080411-french-crew-released-pirates-somalia-hostages&navi=FRANCE

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mike sa
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posted 04-12-2008 01:40 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunately this will only encourage other groups, payment of ransom may fix things in the short term but longer term.........

It simply gives the message that the risk may be worth it.


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