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In reality the ship will be packed with large Americans in check shorts or ill-fitting dresses and I venture to suggest the noise in the Central Park may be anything but soothing.

Could be Barcelona, Rome, anywhere !

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Originally posted by reeves35:

In reality the ship will be packed with large Americans in check shorts or ill-fitting dresses and I venture to suggest the noise in the Central Park may be anything but soothing.

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Originally posted by Atlcruiser:
Again if this were any other cruise line like Carnival, they would just fill the interior with more cabins and passengers. Same old, same old more like a stretched Conquest class ship is all they continue to build. B-O-R-I-N-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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They would just fill the interior with more cabins and passengers? Same old, same old more like a stretched (fill in the blank)-class ship...

The same could be said about Holland-America and Celebrity and Princess and NCL and even most of all previous RCCL ships. All of the cruise lines have generated (yes I have to say it) CLONES: stretched, modified, enlarged, enhanced, altered, and added on to a previous design, CLONES. Even SOLSTICE cannot be compared to this floating mega-box boat.

This ship is unigue in cruising history. It will be the first of its kind, and any attempt in comparison to any other cruise ship design is an exercise in futility and ignorance. All cruise ships and liners built to date cannot compare and we dont even know the half of what this ship is going to offer.

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Why the little jab?? It could be also filled w/loud drunk Aussies, boring Canadians or fat Mexicans as well.

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Not to forget small minded people from Hollywood Hills

Greetings Ben.

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Originally posted by Maasdam:

Not to forget small minded people from Hollywood Hills

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Or big headed people for Rotterdam

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Originally posted by dmwnc1:

They would just fill the interior with more cabins and passengers? Same old, same old more like a stretched (fill in the blank)-class ship...

The same could be said about Holland-America and Celebrity and Princess and NCL and even most of all previous RCCL ships. All of the cruise lines have generated (yes I have to say it) CLONES: stretched, modified, enlarged, enhanced, altered, and added on to a previous design, CLONES. Even SOLSTICE cannot be compared to this floating mega-box boat.

This ship is unigue in cruising history. It will be the first of its kind, and any attempt in comparison to any other cruise ship design is an exercise in futility and ignorance. All cruise ships and liners built to date cannot compare and we dont even know the half of what this ship is going to offer.

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Originally posted by Atlcruiser:
Did I strike a nerve there? LMAO!!!!!!!!

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No nerve. Just get bored and tired (most of us have ) of the haters always bashing Carnival. We get it, got it months ago. Last year. You dont like Carnival, the ships, the decor, the whatever. We could write a book using the hateful and lowly adjectives used to describe their interiors. I dont especially look to them as my first choice either, agree their interior decor is a bit over the top, but I dont bash them in every thread. Opinions are indeed of a personal nature, but to see that 'dead horse' bashing from Carnival-haters being kicked every time, over and over again, gets old. Real old. Really really old.

We have agreed we cant do anything about ship design, nothing, and with the last of the forseeable newbuilds scheduled for around 2012 I'd say we are stuck with what we have, like'm or not. There are very very few ships that have come out in the last decade that are particualty beautiful or even attractive. We adjust our tastes because we get used to them. And its not so much the exteriors that even matter anymore. Entertainment, food, and available deck space matter, and for that matter, Carnival has gotten better reviews recently from CT members than Royal Caribbean and Princess.

And as for design, these two new RCCL monoliths are as boxy as they come. Not very attractive. Look like a Whatever-of-the-Seas on steroids. It is what is on the interior that counts. Cruise Talk members have expressed low expectations of newbuilds based on computer imagery of interiors and exterior photography, only to come back from them with amazing reviews, or at the least, changed opinions. Pride of America, Queen Victoria, even recent shots of the interiors of the Eurodam have swayed opinions that were first laid when the keel was.

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Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:
Note that the doors for balconies are sliding doors, or seem to be if my eyes are not playing a trick on me.

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I think maybe they are hinged doors with glass panels either side? I cant remember the last balcony I had with a sliding glass door, I think maybe the Sun Princess and Dawn Princess in Alaska.

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No nerve. Just get bored and tired (most of us have ) of the haters always bashing Carnival. We get it, got it months ago. Last year. You dont like Carnival, the ships, the decor, the whatever. We could write a book using the hateful and lowly adjectives used to describe their interiors. I dont especially look to them as my first choice either, agree their interior decor is a bit over the top, but I dont bash them in every thread. Opinions are indeed of a personal nature, but to see that 'dead horse' bashing from Carnival-haters being kicked every time, over and over again, gets old. Real old. Really really old.

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Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:
New construction image of Genesis, I mean, Oasis found on Shipspotting. Here we can see the size of Genesis in another perspective. Note that the doors for balconies are sliding doors, or seem to be if my eyes are not playing a trick on me. Here's the image.

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They look like sliders. If you look at the sixth deck of balconies in the middle of the photo, it looks like one cabins has the door slightly open. Looks like a slider to me. Since Royal has placed sliders on all the Voyager, Radiance and Freedom I hope that they do not change. I do not like the hinge doors.

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