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Topic: Sovereign replacing Oceanic?

Rego007
First Class Passenger
Member # 4632

posted 09-24-2008 05:57 PM

I just saw on Pullmantur's website that Sovereign will begin cruising Oceanic's current route "Mediterrenean Breezes" in March of 2009. Oceanic's last sailing on this route appears to be at the end of December 2008. From what I could see the website didn't seem to indicate Oceanic doing another route after that.

Does anyone here know anything more? Hopefully this doesn't mean the end of the line for another great old ship.

Rego007

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Frosty 4
First Class Passenger
Member # 5826

posted 09-24-2008 07:21 PM

In my opinion when a ship gets to old age it should go to Alang or any other wrecker. Cars get old, planes get old and when cost of operations and repair get to a point,then it's time to retire them. Just remember the good memories!
F4

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 09-24-2008 09:16 PM

Now thats about the smartest thing I have heard anyone say in a long time.

Amen and I'll 2nd that emotion.

quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
In my opinion when a ship gets to old age it should go to Alang or any other wrecker. Cars get old, planes get old and when cost of operations and repair get to a point, then it's time to retire them. Just remember the good memories!
F4

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 09-25-2008 12:38 AM

Oceanic has been in service for 43.5 years. She has had a remarkable run, but it's probably time for her to go. Her aging steam plant must be getting very expensive to maintain and I shudder to think about her fuel costs.

Brian

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Corey H.
First Class Passenger
Member # 5202

posted 09-25-2008 12:43 AM

The Oceanic is scheduled to do 2/5 night cruises out of Valencia next year.

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 09-25-2008 01:14 AM

Please tell me we are not going to have the same old "turn her into a hotel and dump her in some crummy port to rust away type campaign".

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Jepp
First Class Passenger
Member # 5576

posted 09-25-2008 02:43 AM

I got this information from a friend:

Until 29th of December regular 8 days / 7 nights itinerary out of Barcelona

From 5th February to 11th June 2009

DEPARTURE Thursday and Sunday from Valencia

ITINERARY A Thursday / Thursday 3 nights / 4 days

Thursday Valencia 19.00
Friday Palma 08.00 overnight on board
Saturday Palma dep. 08.00
Saturday Ibiza 15.00 overnight on board
Sunday Ibiza dep. 08.00
Sunday Valencia 16.00 end of the cruise

ITINERARY B Sunday / Sunday 4 nights / 5 days

Sunday Valencia emb. 21.00
Monday at sea
Tuesday Nice 08.00 - 16.00
Wednesday Palma 10.00 - 18.00
Thursday Valencia 10.00 end of the cruise

From 15th June to 28th December 2009

Monday: Valencia
Tueday: at sea
Wednesday: Rome
Thursday: Livorno
Friday: Corsica
Saturday: Villefranche
Sunday: Palma de Mallorca
Monday: Valencia

Keep steaming!
Jepp

[ 09-25-2008: Message edited by: Jepp ]

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 09-25-2008 03:07 AM

Wow! Big sigh of relief here. You guys had me really scared there for a moment. Guess I'll have to pay a visit to Valencia then!

Still, by 2010 it will almost certainly be end of the line for the wonderful OCEANIC

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Rego007
First Class Passenger
Member # 4632

posted 09-25-2008 04:08 AM

Thanks to all who replied. At more than 43 years old I'm sure her days are numbered, but she does still look great. Having not seen her in person for about eight years, her interiors do appear to be getting quite dated though; clearly a 1980s look. However, as stated above, she has had a great run.

Not to worry...no "save the ship" campaigns from me

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 09-25-2008 04:26 AM

Safe here safe here safe here in a crummy port in South Africa

Restore here interior to new build and painting here in the Home Lines colors. It only cost € 250.000.000 and........ YEAH I KNOW I SHUT UP

Greetings Ben.

[ 09-25-2008: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

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Matts
First Class Passenger
Member # 4120

posted 09-25-2008 04:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jepp:
I got this information from a friend:
Until 29th of December regular 8 days / 7 nights itinerary out of Barcelona

From 5th February to 11th June 2009
DEPARTURE Thursday and Sunday from Valencia

ITINERARY A Thursday / Thursday 3 nights / 4 days
Thursday Valencia 19.00
Friday Palma 08.00 overnight on board
Saturday Palma dep. 08.00
Saturday Ibiza 15.00 overnight on board
Sunday Ibiza dep. 08.00
Monday Valencia 16.00 end of the cruise
ITINERARY B Sunday / Sunday 4 nights / 5 days
Sunday Valencia emb. 21.00
Monday at sea
Tuesday Nice 08.00 - 16.00
Wednesday Palma 10.00 - 18.00
Thursday Valencia 10.00 end of the cruise

From 15th June to 28th December 2009
Mon: Valencia
Tue: at sea
Wed: Rome
Thursday: Livorno
Friday: Corsica
Saturday: Villefranche
Sunday: Palma de Mallorca
Monday: Valencia

Keep steaming!
Jepp

Well thank goodness she is staying nd what a lovely option for those of us who want a short trip but don't fancy a whole week. The itinerary on the website doesn't quite match that shown above, and is in fact even more peculiar. See below.

ITINERARY A Friday to Sunday 2 nights / 3 days

Friday Valencia 14:00
Friday Ibiza 23:00 overnight on board
Saturday Ibiza dep. 06.00
Saturday Palma 12:00 overnight on board
Sunday Palma dep. 03.00
Sunday Valencia 14:00 end of the cruise

If that itinerary is correct it means you dock overnight in Ibiza and sail at 06:00 having arrived at 23:00 - those are some party people...

And the second part
Sunday Valencia embark
Monday Sea day
Tuesday Civit... Rome
Wednesday Ajaccio
Thursday Palma
Friday back to Valencia.

This itinerary is now shown thorughout the year. First part very cheap, from €169...

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Rego007
First Class Passenger
Member # 4632

posted 09-25-2008 05:11 AM

I'm all for repainting her in Home Lines colors. Just long enough to get some good photos, anyway. In my opinion that's when she looked her very best.

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Jepp
First Class Passenger
Member # 5576

posted 09-25-2008 07:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Matts:
Well thank goodness she is staying nd what a lovely option for those of us who want a short trip but don't fancy a whole week. The itinerary on the website doesn't quite match that shown above, and is in fact even more peculiar. See below.

This itinerary is now shown thorughout the year. First part very cheap, from €169...

My info was a few months old so I believe this is more correct. The Ibiza stop seems odd.. And only April - Sep

I´ve heard that SOLAS 2010 wont be a problem for Oceanic - the big threat is her fuel consumtion.

/Jepp

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 09-25-2008 09:59 AM

If she is doing cruises to Spanish ports from a Spanish port with no foreign ports I assume the casino and shops are closed and duty is payable on all drinks etc ? ie: Valenica/Ibiza/Palma?Valencia ?

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