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[ 02-11-2009: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]
It will be interesting to see how this update goes and whether Carnival roll it out across the class. Given the economic conditions I'g guess it will be a while before Carnival commit to the ongoing program.
Brad
They ruin what little aesthetics these ships have, look cheap... a bad afterthought.
IMO... the worst re-fit I've seen in a long time.
NCL must be happy... this botch job makes F3 look like a beauty!
The lowest deck of balconies is too low, and the mid-ship balconies look like after thought. Did Carnival hire a 5 years-old to tack some lLEGOS on the side of their ship?
[ 02-11-2009: Message edited by: Waynaro ]
If they work, maybe they'll weld a few more balconies onto the side... fore ... aft... attached to the funne... wherever they fit.
Perhpas they should slap a few small condos on the bow while they're at it.
Passengers boarding this cruise must have been glad they chose to sail a Carnival "luxury liner"
quote:Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:I had a better idea for this class.
And Bruce, the placement of the lifeboats does matter - how are they going to be lowered if there are balconies sticking out from the side of the ship below them?
quote:Originally posted by Waynaro:Great rendering Carlos, but don't give them more ideas... Next thing you know they will be ripping out the public rooms for more cabins, and maybe relocating the public rooms to the lower decks...
quote:Originally posted by dougnewman:This looks awful. And Bruce, the placement of the lifeboats does matter - how are they going to be lowered if there are balconies sticking out from the side of the ship below them?
It is sad that the ship's exterior design was not taken into account. Same goes for NCL's EPIC.
Has Farcus started doing the experiors of Carnival ships as well ?
quote:Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:The boats will stick out more so than the balconies or the davits can fold down as they already do, the problem with this is that lifeboats when lowered for any reason (maintenance, drills, etc.) will be passing on front of the balcony cabins.
After all, you would already be reversing the location of the cabins and the public rooms. Basically you would have to rebuild the whole ship from the hull up, why keep the lifeboats where they are in that case?
Anyway there is no way Carnival would spend that kind of money refitting these ships or any ships for that matter.
quote:Originally posted by mike sa:Has Farcus started doing the experiors of Carnival ships as well ?
Joe Farcus is not a decorator or stylist, he is an architect who designs the entire ship.
Just this looks very much like some of his interior schemes - bloddy awful.
quote:Originally posted by mike sa:Sorry to disagree but I seem to remember that Stephen Payne was involved in the design of the Fantasy class (then the S class for HAL) and Farcus was absolutely an interior person.
Farcus is responsible for the exterior appearance of all the Carnival ships (for example I believe he designed the "signature" funnel). He also designs the interiors - everything from the overall layout of the ship to the smallest details of the decor.
Now, as for the welded boxes, I feel disappointed. These Fantasy class ships have a lot of potential that is being wasted with these bad-taste additions, such as the one on the Carnival Liberty (Conquest class) suites over the bridge wings.
Keep in mind that the boats need to be able to be lowered with the ship listed at 25 degrees.
I meant from Carlos' rendering. The boats would still be high up followed by decks of Verandas (flush with hull) and finally the public rooms on the lower decks.
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