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Topic: Norwegian dream?

SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
First Class Passenger
Member # 6702

posted 04-17-2009 05:51 AM

i just found this photo on Flickr, she looks empty and deserted, look how high up out of the water she is. look at the NCL logo...

Is this the end for her? is she going to be the most modern cruise ship to be scrapped?

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ahrpd
First Class Passenger
Member # 6229

posted 04-17-2009 07:07 AM

Having been laid up since November, NORWEGIAN DREAM left Freeport on 14 April and is due to arrive at Piraeus on 1st May - a very slow journey. This is an interesting development!!! I doubt she would call there en route to Alang.

Hope she stops at Gib for bunkers!!!

Tony

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 04-17-2009 08:30 AM

Of course she won't be scrapped just yet! If her owners just get a bit more realistic about her selling price, I'm sure she'll find some use soon enough (seems she already has!). Besides, in the past, cruise ships/ocean liners have sometimes been laid up for years and they still came back into service. It's just something we haven't seen happening lately with more recent tonnage.

It will be very interesting to see what she'll be doing in Piraeus!!! Maybe Louis after all???

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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
First Class Passenger
Member # 6702

posted 04-17-2009 08:56 AM

Maybe if NCL reduces the price enough, Louis will actually buy her and lease her to Thomson

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 04-17-2009 09:47 AM

Interesting that she is headed for Piraeus.

I don't think she will be scrapped, she is still worth too much money. Even if she was sold for a fraction of what Louis originally agreed to pay, she could still fetch a lot more than her scrap value.

Also, the ship is owned by Star Cruises, not NCL. NCL no longer has anything to do with this ship as she was previously owned by Star and chartered to NCL (along with CROWN, WIND, MAJESTY and MARCO POLO).

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 04-17-2009 10:03 AM

Thomson don't need her in fact probably not for another 2-3 years. Seriously doubt Louis would want her for themselves.

I really wouldn't be surprised that she ends up on a beach sometime next year especially given the condition that she is reportedly in.

In fact I would bet she ends up in Asia trading for Star before she ends up in Europe.

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Andy
First Class Passenger
Member # 3856

posted 04-17-2009 11:31 AM

STAR itself has 3 ships being laid up I wonder whether they have any capacity to takeover NCL's old tonnages.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 04-17-2009 12:32 PM

Perhaps she will find employment with MCC/Golden Star?

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Kevin Griffin, London
First Class Passenger
Member # 6010

posted 04-17-2009 01:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ahrpd:
Having been laid up since November, NORWEGIAN DREAM left Freeport on 14 April and is due to arrive at Piraeus on 1st May - a very slow journey.
Tony

Tony, this is about 305 nautical miles a day if you're in the ship's pool, or an average speed of say 12.7 knots.

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jetwet1
First Class Passenger
Member # 6361

posted 04-17-2009 03:37 PM

What are they asking for her now ?

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Tim in Fort Lauderdale
First Class Passenger
Member # 953

posted 04-17-2009 07:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by VanGogh (Tom...):
i just found this photo on Flickr, she looks empty and deserted, look how high up out of the water she is. look at the NCL logo...
Is this the end for her? is she going to be the most modern cruise ship to be scrapped?

She's not riding any higher out of the water than usual and it is standard practice to paint out the logo. She is no longer an NCL ship, she is owned by Star Cruises.

Tim

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Tim in Fort Lauderdale
First Class Passenger
Member # 953

posted 04-17-2009 07:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jetwet1:
What are they asking for her now ?

Star is asking $160 million for the Dream and $260 million for the Sky.

Tim

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jetwet1
First Class Passenger
Member # 6361

posted 04-18-2009 12:30 AM

Thanks Tim, that's about what I thought they were asking, but the business side of me said "no, they are smoking crack if they are asking that much"

Pass the pipe please !

I always liked the look of the Dream, but way way way to much money for this ship.

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 04-18-2009 12:58 AM

Norwegian Sky for sale at $260 million ? Didn't know she was for sale ?

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 04-18-2009 04:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jetwet1:
I always liked the look of the Dream, but way way way to much money for this ship.

Last year Star thought it had sold her to Louis for $218m. I guess times change.

(Mind you I think even in good times that was a lunatic amount for this ship.)

quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
Norwegian Sky for sale at $260 million ? Didn't know she was for sale ?

She has been for sale ever since she was pulled from Hawaii. Her ownership reverted to Star who has been trying to sell her ever since. She is just chartered back to NCL while Star tries to find a buyer.

I think the original asking price was $320m.

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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
First Class Passenger
Member # 6702

posted 04-18-2009 06:38 AM

didn't that spanish cruise line get her then?

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 04-18-2009 10:10 AM

Apparently DREAM is on her way to Athens. What that means I don't know. Perhaps just a lay-up.

Ernie

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Italianliners
First Class Passenger
Member # 5446

posted 04-18-2009 01:41 PM

Costa could buy Sky for she finally became Costa Olympia... who knows, just a decade late!

Italianliners

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 04-20-2009 03:54 AM

Doug,

Who owns NORWEGIAN SPIRIT (ex-SUPERSTAR VIRGO)? NCL or Star?

Brgds.
Ralph

quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
She has been for sale ever since she was pulled from Hawaii. Her ownership reverted to Star who has been trying to sell her ever since. She is just chartered back to NCL while Star tries to find a buyer.
I think the original asking price was $320m.

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 04-27-2009 09:01 AM

It appears "Norwegian Dream" is now at anchor off Gibraltar. Tony?

Best,

Raoul

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ahrpd
First Class Passenger
Member # 6229

posted 04-27-2009 10:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by r.fiebig:
It appears "Norwegian Dream" is now at anchor off Gibraltar. Tony?

Best,
Raoul

Indeed! A couple of pics are in the Photo Library of the Gibraltar Port website at:

http://www.gibraltarport.com/photo_library.cfm

Tony

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 04-27-2009 11:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rd77:
Who owns NORWEGIAN SPIRIT (ex-SUPERSTAR VIRGO)? NCL or Star?

As far as I know she is owned by NCL.

(And of course she is the former SUPERSTAR LEO, not VIRGO.)

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rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 04-28-2009 03:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
As far as I know she is owned by NCL.
(And of course she is the former SUPERSTAR LEO, not VIRGO.)

you little smart-arse I keep mixing up the two of them. thanks.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 04-28-2009 01:41 PM

Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES

I wonder if a charter has been arranged for Norwegian Dream and she will take the place of Vision Star which should have been cruising for Mediterranean Classic Cruises but has gone to Quail cruises and been renamed ' Gemini '.

Mediterranean Classic cruises are listing 3 & 4 day cruises available in May but no details of which ship they are using !

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 04-28-2009 01:43 PM

There is always the chance they have bought her !

[ 04-28-2009: Message edited by: Neil Whitmore ( Bob ex P&O Cruises) ]

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