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Greetings Ben.

[ 05-31-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

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Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
Umm...isnt Mein Schiff what was once Celebity Galaxy? She doesn't exist as Celebrity Galaxy anymore.

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Whoooooops yes you are right. Changed the initial post

Here 3 pictures of CELEBRITY CONSTELLATION arrival in Rotterdam. As I said in my initial post it's Celebrity Cruises first call at Rotterdam. The MV CELEBRITY CONSTELLATION also opens the Rotterdam 2010 cruise season. Sadly I'm not able to see here departure.

More pictures (6) on my website.

Greetings Ben.

[ 04-22-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

Found no photos, but seems that I remember right after so many years...

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Originally posted by Karsten:
I did not know it in that time, but later I heard that also MERCURY visited Rotterdam after delivery from Meyer yard...

Found no photos, but seems that I remember right after so many years...

link (Dutch language)

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You are right Karsten!

I was confused It was the Mercury that visit Rotterdam on one of here trail sailings. In my opening post I wrote that it was Galaxy
Quickly changed the names in my opening post.
THANKS!

Here are some examples of some of my shots.

Jochen
PS : sorry if I offended anyone

PICS DELETED AT REQUEST OF SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT I SHOWED THEM WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH SOME PHOTOS.

I just wanted to learn other people what a little cutting and saturation could do but some people are just singleminded.

[ 05-11-2010: Message edited by: Cunardcoll ]

I would think that your remarks about the quality of pictures posted will discourage people from posting on here.

Not everybody has the time to sit around making changes to pictures they have taken or is an expert photographer.

Most cruising website forums, including mine, are grateful for any pictures posted.

Should we get a poor picture I will always download it and re-post it, having tried to improve it for the poster.

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Originally posted by Maasdam:
Not everybody will make a effort to go to the docks in cold and sometimes rain hard winds etc. I do on a certain level. Just as Saturday, it was cold rainy and foggy as you cane see in my last pictures.

Thanks a lot for your efforts.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Maasdam:
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Beside that the pictures give the real situation at that time.

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The question is of course: What is real? I know many people who consider post processing as inappropriate manipulation. I think they forget that taking the picture itself is already manipulative. When you look trough the viewfinder you make a decision on what's in the picture and what's not in the picture. I would even go that far to say that it's sometimes necessary to do some post processing since the plain picture might not get the message across how the 'real situation' was - which is of course per definition subjective.

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Originally posted by Maasdam:

Sometimes people are walking by or a fence or a sign got in the way.

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I think the attempts to get what ship enthusiasts consider 'the perfect shot' is often the reason why these photos are boring. The foreground and the surrounding area can be included and often it's these things which make an interesting picture.

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Originally posted by Maasdam:

So maybe my pictures are not the most arty around. They are certainly made with love fore cruise ships. And certainly made to share with anny one who are interested in seeing the cruise ships calling Rotterdam.

Greetings Ben.

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And in that rain and thunderstorm I pay my respect to this Grand Lady. Here 3 pictures.

10 more pictures are uploaded on my site take a look here NASM 1873

The video is coming soon.

Greetings Ben.

[ 06-01-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

Jochen

P.S. : photographers among us , what do you think about the photo itself ?

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Originally posted by Cunardcoll:
And I expected 3 ships in Zeebrugge and got only one , but then again , this ONE was worth the trip , she 's my favourite QM2 , I also got a nice shot of P&O Pride of York wich I sailed a few weeks ago.

Jochen

P.S. : photographers among us , what do you think about the photo itself ?

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What have Zeebrugge to do with the Rotterdam calls. Maybe nice to open you're own topic about the Zeebrugge calls.

Ben.

[ 06-01-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

in the first place thanks a lot for your pics
they are highly appreciated and i know like you do
that sometimes getting there is the hardest part

nevertheless i understand the words from Jochen,
although they seem a little harsh to me
they are good shots of ships, i would say
no art involved, but hey we are here on
shiploving forum aren't we?

ofcourse we all make effort to make a good shot
sharpness, perspective, flat horizon i do not think
or pretend that we are making art
(at least i'm not)

i'm one of the purists that doesn't like photoshopped pics, however i do understand the fun and quality of it when properly done, for me the shot
(as best as i can) at that time is my view and
registration of the ship involved

keep on going, most of us appreciate it!

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Originally posted by buddhaJoe:
hi Ben,

in the first place thanks a lot for your pics
they are highly appreciated and i know like you do
that sometimes getting there is the hardest part

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Absolutely. Sometimes there is more effort involved in getting a nice picture than one would think.

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Originally posted by buddhaJoe:

nevertheless i understand the words from Jochen,
although they seem a little harsh to me
they are good shots of ships, i would say
no art involved, but hey we are here on
shiploving forum aren't we?

ofcourse we all make effort to make a good shot
sharpness, perspective, flat horizon i do not think
or pretend that we are making art
(at least i'm not)

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Sharpness, level horizon etc. are not necessarily features I would use to define art but good craftsmanship. Maybe 'here' in this forum we are happy with some not so nice pictures since we are more interested in the ship but I think it's always necessary to make an effort to take a good picture (not necessarily art) - and this is not only about features like sharpness but also (and probably even more) about the composition.

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Originally posted by buddhaJoe:

i'm one of the purists that doesn't like photoshopped pics, however i do understand the fun and quality of it when properly done, for me the shot
(as best as i can) at that time is my view and
registration of the ship involved[....]

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If you don't look at those things then you better buy a camera of 120 EURO and you get the same results , but most people here have a bigger more expensive camera or even a digital SLR like me , why would you buy a big expensive camera if you don't know how to use it and you don't try to learn it.

at least try to get the light and composition right and keep it as still as possible and the photo will be a lot better.

About photoshop I say just this , use it for retouching like I do but creating a different photo is another thing , most people (including myself) don't even know how to start creating a new photo from more other photos (well I know a bit about it , mixed lightings , pasting another sky behind something , but I never do it in a shipphoto)

At least try to impress us , like here

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Now THAT is great craftsmanship in photography.

Again Patrik27 , very good