- CruiseServer
- Search Caribbean
- Search Alaska
- Search Europe
- 888.700.TRIP
- Ship Reviews
- Dream Cruise
- Ship of the Month
- Reader Reviews
- Submit a Review
- Millennium Cruise
- Photo Gallery
- Join Cruise Club
- Cruise News
- Cruise News Archive
- Cruise Views
- Cruise Jobs
- Special Needs
- Maritime Q & A
- Sea Stories
- New Ship Guide
- Former Ships
- Port Information
- Inspection Scores
- Shipyards
- Ship Cams
- Ship Tracking
- Freighter Travel
- Man Overboard List
- Potpourri
- Shirts & Hats
- Books
- Videos
- Reservations
- Mail
- Feedback
- Suggest-a-Site
- About Us
- PamM's Site
- Ernst's Site
- Patsy's Site
- Ben's Site
- Carlos' Site
- Chris' Site
- SRead's Site
|

Cruise Travel - Cruise Talk
|
|
 |
|
Welcome to Cruise Talk the Internet's most popular
discussion forum dedicated to cruising. Stop by Cruise
Talk anytime to post a message or find out what your fellow passengers
and industry insiders are saying about a particular ship, cruise line or
destination.
>>> Reader
Reviews
>>> CruisePage.com
Photo Gallery
>>> Join Our Cruise Club.
|
Latest News...Norwegian Cruise Line today celebrated the arrival of the all-new magnificent Norwegian Aqua to the U.S. for an exclusive preview in New York City before she returns in August 2025 for a series of voyages to Bermuda. Today, Norwegian Aqua will welcome over 2,000 invited guests for a two-day inaugural event to experience the Brand's newest offerings. Ranging from first-in-the-industry activities...
Latest News...Building on a period of expansive growth, Carnival Cruise Line is outlining its strategic plans over the next five years with the introduction of its "Innovation Itinerary," focused on three pillars: sailing the most fun fleet at sea; creating compelling experiences and destinations; and building more Carnival loyalists. The line's President Christine Duffy provided details on new ships...
Latest News...After a two-week drydock in Palermo, Italy, Majestic Princess has set sail with an exciting array of new venues, reimagined spaces, and refined touches in preparation for its 2025 Mediterranean season. Guests aboard the freshly renovated ship will be greeted by a host of new enhanced features, including various elevated culinary experiences and social spaces. Notable additions include the popular O’Malley’s...
|
|
More Cruise News... |
|
|
Author
|
Topic: P&O order new Princess clone
|
KenC
First Class Passenger
Member # 6341
|
posted 06-01-2011 05:04 AM
Well, it didn't take long for the new Royal Princess class to be cloned - first honours go to P&O!!! P&O Cruises has placed an order with Fincantieri for a 141,000gt ship, scheduled to enter service in March 2015.Seatrade Insider report The as-yet-unnamed 3,611-passenger vessel will be the largest in the P&O Cruises fleet, as well as the largest cruise ship built specifically for the British market. To be built at Fincantieri’s Monfalcone yard, the all-in cost is approximately €155,000 per lower berth. Ushering in an exciting era for P&O Cruises, the ship 'will offer a stylish and innovative new design and an unprecedented number of passenger facilities, along with many of the brand’s classic and iconic features,' states the operator. Micky Arison, Carnival Corporation & plc’s chairman and ceo said, 'The UK continues to be a key growth market and innovative vessels such as this new P&O Cruises ship – targeted specifically to British clientele – underscore our commitment to leading the expansion of this important cruise region. This newly ordered ship will underline P&O Cruises’ position as Britain’s favourite cruise line.' P&O Cruises managing director Carol Marlow said, 'This next-generation ship will deliver the ultimate P&O Cruises experience, with "sophisticated wows’" and new features to attract thousands of newcomers to our brand, and equally to resonate with existing P&O Cruises passengers by giving them the "P&O-ness" they recognise and love.' Marlow added the shop will combine the favourite 'classic' features of Oriana and Aurora, the 'choice and variety' of Azura and Ventura, and 'a host of new ideas and concepts'. Commenting on the announcement of the new order, Fincantieri ceo, Giuseppe Bono, said: 'This order shows that the company, even in a difficult moment as today, is resolutely continuing its commitment in a particularly depressed market in order to gain whatever orders there might be, thus holding on to its position as world leader.' Since 1990 Fincantieri has built 59 cruise ships, including 52 for different brands in Carnival Group. This latest order will bring the P&O Cruise fleet to eight ships. Seatrade Insider here
Posts: 353 | From: Brighton, UK | Registered: Mar 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117
|
posted 06-01-2011 06:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by KenC: Fresh from the P&O web site the first image, 2 funnels !!!! ..... what price a 20 year old Oriana leaving the fleet after 2015?????
[ 06-01-2011: Message edited by: KenC ]
Hmm, a QE2-inspired radar mast and an overall likeness to the Celebrity Solstice-class, but still, not bad for such a large ship. RE the ORIANA: I recommend to Saga Holidays that they start saving straightaway to buy her!
Posts: 1037 | From: The Hague, Netherlands | Registered: Jun 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
|
eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649
|
posted 06-01-2011 09:59 AM
Of course it was only a matter of time before another Carnival Corp. brand ordered a version of this design.Just about anything is an improvement over the Grand Class in appearance (especially the P&O versions). I'm not sure which version of the newbuilds I prefer (two or one funnel), and I don't think I'll know for certain until I see the ships in person. The way the two funnels are designed and placed I'm reminded of Celebrity's Solstice Class. I wonder if Carnival and Costa will get one? I would laugh if Cunard ordered one. Carnival states their next new ship will be a completely different design than the Destiny/Conquest/Dream Class, and I suppose this Princess design would qualify? It's amazing how similar the NCL and Princess/P&O newbuilds look to one another. They are about the same size and passenger capacity as well. Royal Caribbean's 'Sunshine Class' is also similar in size and capacity, but so far not a single rendering is to be found. Ernie
Posts: 7046 | From: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
|
eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649
|
posted 06-01-2011 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Noordam: Sadly there is no Crow's Nest, which I feel P&O should have added to the Ventura/Azura, and now this ship.
I was just thinking the same thing. No forward facing observation lounge or any observation lounge for that matter. This is something the Solstice Class offers and it's quite beautiful with double height glass walls to the sea. On these new Princess/P&O ships the space is dedicated to revenue producing cabins, which comes as no surprise on a Carnival design. Ernie
Posts: 7046 | From: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
|
|
eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649
|
posted 06-01-2011 03:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Noordam: I have to imagine that Carnival needs a larger ship then this class to compete against RCI. They really do need to up their game.As for this class, I am going to assume that Holland America is the next to adapt, and I bet it will be very similar to P&O, two stacks and all.
I was thinking the same thing about HAL getting one of these ships. HAL has already indicated that their next newbuild will be larger, and Celebrity has proven they can still compete in the 'Premium' market with a larger ship. Funny, there is not really a lot that differentiates the mass-market from premium market these days. Certainly not price. It's usually cheaper to sail on HAL and Celebrity than Royal Caribbean.
Regarding Carnival Cruise Lines, believe it or not there has been some speculation that the next newbuild will be smaller than the current Dream Class. Who knows if there is any truth to that. It would not surprise me if they got one of these Royal Princess designs, along with Costa as well. The only holdout might be Cunard. Wouldn't that be something, the same platform ship crossing over five brands? Maybe the Vista Class isn't looking so bad after all! LOL Ernie
Posts: 7046 | From: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
|
|
eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649
|
posted 06-01-2011 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Thad: HAL Version!?!?!? What shall we name her? Spaarndam?
Thad, Perhaps you should forward to HAL for their next press release! How about putting HAL Vista Class style funnels on her? Ernie
Posts: 7046 | From: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
Fairsky
First Class Passenger
Member # 781
|
posted 06-01-2011 03:55 PM
How about Ameridam, Asiadam, or some other horrendous name that syncs with Eurodam?I also say a nod to the ship's fleetmates in Carnival Corp is overdue: Princessdam Vistadam Carnivaldam Honestly, they should use an old name from the fleet: Leerdam Edam Spaarndam or my favorite: Dubbeldam
Posts: 1685 | From: Chicago, Illinois | Registered: Jul 99
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649
|
posted 06-01-2011 04:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Thad: Altered to be a little more "HAL"-ish
Perfect! I think it's only a matter of time. Ernie
Posts: 7046 | From: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: Oct 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
All times are ET (US)
|
This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3
|
Contact Us | CruisePage
 Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3
VACATION & CRUISE SPECIALS
|
Check out these great deals from CruisePage.com
|
Royal Caribbean - Bahamas Getaway from $129 per person
|
Description: |
Experience the beautiful ports of Nassau and Royal Caribbean's private island - CocoCay on a 3-night Weekend Getaway to the Bahamas. Absorb everything island life has to offer as you snorkel with the stingrays, parasail above the serene blue waters and walk the endless white sand beaches. From Miami.
|
Carnival - 4-Day Bahamas from $229 per person
|
Description: |
Enjoy a wonderful 3 Day cruise to the fun-loving playground of Nassau, Bahamas. Discover Nassau, the capital city as well as the cultural, commercial and financial heart of the Bahamas. Meet the Atlantic Southern Stingrays, the guardians of Blackbeard's treasure.
|
NCL - Bermuda - 7 Day from $499 per person
|
Description: |
What a charming little chain of islands. Walk on pink sand beaches. Swim and snorkel in turquoise seas. Take in the historical sights. They're stoically British and very quaint. Or explore the coral reefs. You can get to them by boat or propelled by fins. You pick. Freestyle Cruising doesn't tell you where to go or what to do. Sure, you can plan ahead, or decide once onboard. After all, it's your vacation. There are no deadlines or must do's.
|
Holland America - Eastern Caribbean from From $599 per person
|
Description: |
White sand, black sand, talcum soft or shell strewn, the beaches of the Eastern Caribbean invite you to swim, snorkel or simply relax. For shoppers, there's duty-free St. Thomas, the Straw Market in Nassau, French perfume and Dutch chocolates on St. Maarten. For history buffs, the fascinating fusion of Caribbean, Latin and European cultures. For everyone, a day spent on HAL's award winning private island Half Moon Cay.
|
Celebrity - 7-Night Western Mediterranean from $549 per person
|
Description: |
For centuries people have traveled to Europe to see magnificent ruins, art treasures and natural wonders. And the best way to do so is by cruise ship. Think of it - you pack and unpack only once. No wasted time searching for hotels and negotiating train stations. Instead, you arrive at romantic ports of call relaxed, refreshed and ready to take on the world.
|
Holland America - Alaska from From $499 per person
|
Description: |
Sail between Vancouver and Seward, departing Sundays on the ms Statendam or ms Volendam and enjoy towering mountains, actively calving glaciers and pristine wildlife habitat. Glacier Bay and College Fjord offer two completely different glacier-viewing experiences.
|
|
|
|