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Righting a ship like this is not an easy task but not impossible. They did it with the Normandie but it took major efforts of time and money.
The Italian authorities have control of the ship right now. First thing they will do when the weather permits and the authorities permit is to remove the fuel and other oils that could cause an environmental disaster. But in the process that could add a whole new set of dangers, depending on how much fuel is aboard, etc. The operation will reduce her total weight and in the process of shifting things around she could move or put further strain on her structure.
To refloat her they would have to restore buoyancy which means making her dry. To restore stability is even more tricky. Be pretty hard to tow her out of there on her side ....
Even if she does not break her back on the rocks it will be a lot of work to get her out of there in one piece and not damage the structure further to get her into a condition where should could be moved.
The insurance companies will be involved in the decision if the ship can be safely removed and what it would cost to put her back together again. Water is extremely damaging and it would mean removing everything basically down to the metal to get her clean and dry. The machinery, wiring, insulation, etc. is where the costs would be in a restoration. All of it is likely destroyed.
The idea of stripping down the structure is possible but like the Normandie you need to get to a place where you can close up what remains before you can pump out the water and refloat anything.
The insurance folks may say it is simpler to cut her up where she lies.
Greetings Ben.
The Queen Elizabeth 2 was once in a similar accident where they crashed into rocks at 25 knots in 1992. Her double bottom saved her then. Maybe double hull should be required at all large passengers ships from now on?
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quote:Originally posted by Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company.:Even if she is raised and returned to service with a different name I do not think a lot of people would want to cruise on her if they know her history..
The keyword here is 'know'.Alll I say is Sally Albatross.
Keyword "if" many people who cruise know nothing about ships in the first place lol
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:The keyword here is 'know'.Alll I say is Sally Albatross.
The first cruise my wife and I ever went on was about her as MS Leeward
quote:Originally posted by timb:The first cruise my wife and I ever went on was about her as MS Leeward
There was the Stockholm that rammed and sunk the Andrea Doria. She has been completely rebuilt as the Athena and has a large Italian following.
If it costs as much to rebuild Concordia as it does a newbuild, me thinks Carnival will build a new ship of the same capacity, but of the [safe home to port] new design that supersedes the 1995 vintage Destiny class she is derived from.
I'm only guessing but I believe the chance of there being a new artificial reef created off the Italian coast is highly likely. Even this will involve a significant salvage effort.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16573312
Wouldn't you think Costa would remove him after a few incidents??
Frosty4
More images: http://fredfryinternational.blogspot.com/2007/10/maritime-monday-82.html
They have to get the ship out of there and I doubt they would start cutting it to pieces there.
I would say it would be fixed / parts of the ship would be re-used for some kind of new building.
[ 01-17-2012: Message edited by: Peter P ]
quote:Originally posted by avalon1025:Costa "Neo" Concordia
Costa Lotta
quote:Originally posted by DAMBROSI2:He rose from Security Officer to Captain really fast. I read he was Security Officer in 2002 and became Captain in 2007, isn't that too fast?
I don't know exactly how Costa's ranks work but safety officer is usually already one of the most senior officers in the deck department. So I don't necessarily think he moved up the ranks excessively fast.
quote:Originally posted by Peter P:For Sally Albatross the situation was not that bad.[...]
I was more thinking about the fire that essentially destroyed the whole ship before she became what we see in the above posted photos, but yes, her machinery was intact which was the reason to justify the 'refit'.
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