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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-14-2012 03:24 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See Here

(Many of the details reminds me of Epic! )

The Waterfront

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I wonder how all these outdoor venues will fare after a few seasons of sea spray and rain and other weather oriented situations. I know RCL has the outdoor mastered but I wonder how these areas will fare?

What do you do when the sea is against you and you have to fill all these venues with people.


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I agree, these venues are extremely exposed to the elements--not the same as bars located up on Lido Decks, with overhanging roofs and surrounded by glass or walls.

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posted 03-14-2012 06:21 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How is this area more exposed to the elements than for example the Marquee Deck bar/eaterie on Black Watch? Not enclosed by glass or a overhanging roof. Considering the size of Breakaway it is probably further away from the sea itself. The furniture only needs the same looking after as any ship with chairs/tables along the prom.

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posted 03-14-2012 07:33 PM      Profile for jeremya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Breakaway then must have the open promenade higher up on the ship farther from the sea. But with all that open seating areas on the waterside, I still think there are going to be issues with salt problems on all surfaces.

I don't know how rough seas or storms is going to play on seating and serving all these people sea side in these areas. It was just a question. I would need to see some kind of rendering of the ship to see where they plan to put this open space areas.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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The 'Waterfront' is bound to be along way from the sea, but will of course not work well in cold weather or a storm, but these ships arenot designed for cold-water climates. Epic's 'Spice H20' area which is an open air disco at night, is of course deserted on a cool evening.

Anyway Breakaway will also have plenty of opportunities for indoor drinking, dining and shopping too!

Breakaway seems surprisingly similar to Epic, even in terms of décor, but without the mistakes such as narrow (New Wave) cabins, glass toilet doors and the notorious 'carbuncle' on the front!

The gross tonnage is also a bit smaller of course and Breakaway will have pods for increased manoeuvrability.

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I actually like that a lot, I can certainly see us grabbing a drink before/after dinner there on a nice Caribbean night.
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posted 03-15-2012 10:26 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know, giving how the 'recently' built ships look alike 'being outside' seems to be a new concept for many.

There are gazillions of smaller vessels with much more exposed open deck space (much, much closer to the water) - this should not be a problem. I am actually surprised how long it took cruise lines to 'find out' about how to use the open deck spacer near the promenade. Being at sea is finally what distinguishes a cruise form other types of vacation.


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How is this area more exposed to the elements than for example the Marquee Deck bar/eaterie on Black Watch?[...]

Exactly.


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I have to give NCL some credit for this idea. They've done something rather creative and savvy. If you look at renderings, there is an area above the promenade deck that is "whited out"...this is where the Waterfront outdoor bars and restaurants will be.

NCL managed to create this new feature without losing balcony cabins. This is space normally occupied by lifeboats nested below the cabins and above the promenade deck on other ships. NCL moved the lifeboats from a nested position and hung them outside the hull like on Nor. Epic and Oasis/Allure of the Seas. Doing this created new unobstructed oceanview space for either more cabins (as seen on Nor. Epic), or new outdoor venues as now revealed on Breakaway. I'm just glad they chose the latter.

It looks like each bar/venue will also have interior seating, so in bad weather they can still function. I would still like to see deck plans to understand the interior arrangement and flow.


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:


That Manhattan Club image is very similar to the space on the Epic, which is actually pretty nice looking..


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The Atrium and LED chandelier looks similar to Epic's.

March 14, 2012 – Norwegian Cruise Line today unveiled a major innovation in ship design: The Waterfront and 678 Ocean Place on its newest ship, Norwegian Breakaway, launching in April 2013. This new concept includes an oceanfront boardwalk lined with shops, restaurants and bars, combined with three expansive, flowing decks of dining, bars, entertainment, gaming and more. The Waterfront and 678 Ocean Place will take cruising to new heights and offer an unparalleled experience with a unique connection to the ocean.

“With our newest ship, Norwegian Breakaway, we are continuing our tradition of innovation with a brand new ship design that will provide our guests with a unique experience unlike anything else at sea,” said Kevin Sheehan, Norwegian Cruise Line’s chief executive officer. “The heart of Norwegian Breakaway and the elements that truly set it apart are The Waterfront and 678 Ocean Place. Guests will enjoy al fresco dining while admiring the beauty of the ocean, along with the excitement and exhilaration of three expansive action-packed decks, as everything is designed to flow seamlessly."

Located on Deck 8, The Waterfront is a revolutionary outdoor experience that adds a whole new dimension to the line’s signature Freestyle Cruising, by offering a number of seaside venues that feature breathtaking views and a sense of connection with the ocean.

The hub of the ship is 678 Ocean Place, a space that uniquely flows, intertwines and connects three decks of daytime and nighttime amusements. There will be a total of 17* dining venues combined on both 678 Ocean Place and The Waterfront, along with 12* bars and lounges. Norwegian will also introduce a new dining concept on Norwegian Breakaway, Ocean Blu, the line’s first ever all-seafood restaurant, which will include a premium raw bar, along with a separate sushi bar.

The Waterfront

The Waterfront will feature eight outdoor dining and lounging options, including signature Norwegian favourites like Moderno Churrascaria; Cagney’s Steakhouse; La Cucina; Shaker’s Cocktail Bar; Malting’s Beer & Whiskey Bar; and the newest addition, Ocean Blu on The Waterfront, with outdoor seating and a special takeaway menu. The Waterfront will also feature another first for Norwegian – a gelato bar serving a selection of flavours. A yet-to-be-announced entertainment venue will also have an outdoor space.

678 Ocean Place

On Deck 8, 678 Ocean Place connects the The Waterfront outdoor spaces with interior dining venues for Moderno; Cagney’s; Shaker’s; La Cucina; Malting’s and Ocean Blu, including the raw and sushi bars.

An elegant modern take on an ocean-inspired theme with a glamorous feel, Ocean Blu is the newest addition to Norwegian’s Freestyle Dining line-up. Featuring a premium raw bar and a sushi bar, Ocean Blu will offer seafood lovers a culinary treasure.

“In a recent guest survey, our guests chose a seafood restaurant as the number one type of restaurant they would like on board our ships,” said Sheehan. “We listened to that feedback when planning the dining on Norwegian Breakaway and will launch Ocean Blu as our newest signature restaurant concept.”

La Cucina celebrates the Tuscan countryside and will continue to serve Norwegian’s delicious Italian dishes to guests who choose dine either al fresco on the outdoor patio on The Waterfront, in the main restaurant or the interior terrace option, giving guests the opportunity to dine along the interior walkway beneath twinkling lanterns, exposed wooden beams and greenery.

Moderno Churrascaria is Norwegian’s signature Brazilian-style steakhouse. Whether guests dine indoors or out, they will feast from a huge salad bar, followed by a variety of grilled and slow-roasted meats that are carved tableside by passadors. Overlooking the Manhattan Room is another Norwegian signature establishment, Cagney’s Steakhouse, which will feature succulent grilled steaks, perfectly cooked double cut lamb chops and other steakhouse favourites. Guests will dine in style amidst warm wood tones as they enjoy watching the chefs prepare their meals in the open kitchen. Located between Cagney’s and Moderno, Prime Meridian will offer guests the opportunity to order a signature cocktail and soak in the action taking place around them on 678 Ocean Place. Guests will also find retail outlets, the photo gallery, and the Humidor Cigar Lounge on Deck 8. A three-story open atrium with an exquisite LED chandelier with light changing effects will serve as the centrepiece of 678 Ocean Place with openings to all three decks and glass staircases connecting the levels.

Spanning more than 18,000 square feet on Deck 7, the contemporary Breakaway Casino will have a stylish sophistication created by the use of rich materials, luxurious ornamental lighting and highly decorative artwork including gold tiles and upscale finishes. Breakaway Casino will offer guests the opportunity to try their luck on more than 300 of the latest slot machines; along with 26 gaming tables featuring poker, black jack, roulette and craps. With the most rewarding Casinos At Sea Players Club programme, there will be something for everyone, from the novice to the high roller. Bar 21, located adjacent to the Casino, is a stunning, intimate bar featuring video poker and multiple plasma television screens.

Reminiscent of a private New York City supper club, The Manhattan Room is a complimentary restaurant on Deck 7 that will feature a dance floor as its focal point. As guests dine on cuisine that reflects the elegant and romantic nature of the room, they will enjoy live music and dancing. The two-story high restaurant showcases floor-to-ceiling panoramic windows.

Due to the popularity of the noodle bar on Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Breakaway will feature Shanghai’s Noodle Bar, the largest noodle bar at sea. This exciting dining concept will offer all counter seating around an open kitchen and will serve traditional Chinese noodles, wok-fried dishes and dim sum.

Another guest favourite, O’Sheehan’s Neighborhood Bar & Grill, returns on Norwegian Breakaway. This complimentary 24-hour a day neighbourhood sports bar and restaurant will serve classic American food. It will feature a giant two-story screen, perfect for watching sports and movies, along with miniature bowling, pool and air hockey tables and interactive games.

A popular hotspot on several Norwegian ships, Bliss Ultra Lounge has been re-designed on Norwegian Breakaway to resemble a true hotspot, similar to trendy New York clubs. Guests will walk through the LED-lit tunnel entrance to the illuminated bar, LED walls and pulsating dance floor where they will dance the night away.

Savor, one of the three complimentary main dining options on Norwegian Breakaway, will feature cuisine that is traditional with a contemporary flair. Across from Savor, is where guests will find Taste, another complimentary main dining venue. Taste will serve a variety of culinary delights to please every palate. Both restaurants feature clean lines and upscale, contemporary décor. Located between Savor and Taste is Mixx Bar, the perfect, pre- or post-dinner gathering place, with a modern twist to a classical design.

Norwegian’s signature Teppanyaki restaurant will continue to dazzle guests on Norwegian Breakaway with the addition of a traditional Japanese rock garden, featuring bamboo plants and bonsai trees to promote a pleasing aesthetic ambiance. With 96 seats surrounding 12 flat top grills, Teppanyaki chefs will showcase their knife-wielding skills while cooking exhibition-style Japanese cuisine.

Le Bistro, Norwegian’s signature French restaurant, will feature an elegant indoor setting, along with a European sidewalk-style dining opportunity which will overlook the social hub of the ship, 678 Ocean Place. Guests will marvel at the three-story cascading LED chandelier above them, along with the constant flow of people as they dine on classic French dishes.

Within the Atrium, located on Deck 6, guests will find a two-story video wall along with the Café and Bar at The Atrium. The Café will offer specialty coffees and fresh baked treats. The Bar at The Atrium will feature mixed drinks, along with a self-service wine bar. The Shore Excursion Desk, Internet Café and Art Gallery will be located in close proximity to the Atrium, along with two meeting rooms, card room and library.

Additional dining options and bars not located within 678 Ocean Place will be announced in late April. There will also be a number of exciting entertainment venues located within 678 Ocean Place that will be revealed at a later date this spring.

Entering service in April 2013, Norwegian Breakaway will sail from her year-round homeport of New York City to Bermuda in the summer and The Bahamas & Florida and The Caribbean in the winter.

*One dining venue and one bar will be announced at a later date, along with all of the entertainment venues.


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Just a question because I never did a cruise in the caribbean so I don t know how its different .. but are not those sides of ships usually too much windy during navigation or too hot during the sun light? i mean without being enclosed by full sized glass.. aft deck are different because protected from the wind by the ship structure itself during navigation.. but in this case it's like to have opened bar on the traditional promenade deck..
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Even in the Caribbean, open decks/proms are subject to heat, cold, wind rain etc. Conditions can vary from port to starboard, too.

However Breakaway will have plenty of indoor facilities too!


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Where is Ernie? What's his take on Epic V Breakaway?
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I like the design for the Breakaway. I think Norwegian learned a lot during the EPIC introduction. People did say they felt Epic was too enclosed and separated from the sea. This boardwalk or open promenade is a nice idea.
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Another teaser from NCL:

I was starting to wonder exactly where the 'waterfront' was located, but now I know: above the lifeboats.

The prom extends out from the ships hull and at the aft of the ship. However I'm not clear if it fully wraps around the front of the ship? The renderings do not suggest so.

(Images borrowed from meretmarine.com)

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Thanks for linking the last 2 pics Malcolm, those are new to me and prior to this I have yet to see the rear end of these new NCL ships.

I think it's a nice looking modern cruise ship, nothing really offensive about it. Kind of surprised by the lack of a ducktail and I do prefer the bridge to be a deck lower, but otherwise pretty good. Want to see the Peter Max hull art.

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I do like the looks of her interiors but have doubts on how the exterior public promenade spaces will fare on winter cruises out of NYC especially on the first two (and last two) days. Some of the weather off of the Carolina coast can be a bit wicked. There were days on my cruise out of Baltimore that the outer promenade was closed due to high winds. I imagine NCL thought this all the way through?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I do like the looks of her interiors...

many are very similar to Epics!

...but have doubts on how the exterior public promenade spaces will fare on winter cruises out of NYC...

Cleverly many of the external dining areas are internal dining rooms with 'lido' araes on the waterfront prom deck. In cold/wet weather life will go on!

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Indeed, it doesn't take long for it to warm up heading south from New York in the winter time, a day and a half maybe.
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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I do like the looks of her interiors but have doubts on how the exterior public promenade spaces will fare on winter cruises out of NYC especially on the first two (and last two) days. Some of the weather off of the Carolina coast can be a bit wicked. There were days on my cruise out of Baltimore that the outer promenade was closed due to high winds. I imagine NCL thought this all the way through?

Kevin Sheehan did state during SeaTrade last week that they plan to have outdoor heaters in place, much like is seen in land-based outdoor bars and restaurants.

Rich


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
The prom extends out from the ships hull and at the aft of the ship. However I'm not clear if it fully wraps around the front of the ship? The renderings do not suggest so.

An unofficial source has just told me: "The three-quarters aft promenade serves to provide shelter from sea spray and winds, which is why it is not wrap-around. The forward end of that deck serves more or less as a forecastle, rather like on many yachts and destroyers for that matter in the old days".

(thecruisepeople)

There's a You tube video too (thanks Pam): Watch for the Waterfront -

www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jowtDOiMk


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The woman doing the voice-over for that Breakaway Youtube video sounds like the same woman who did the Royal Caribbean commercial The Sea calling through a seashell.
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I wonder how all these public bars and restaurants will effect those who have balcony rooms just over them? I can imagine people gathered along the rails and the possibility of loud nighttime conversations and music.

Also, a couple of the artist impressions of those outdoor walkways adjacent to The Waterfront look just wide enough for two people walking side-by-side to stroll through. Can't imagine what it will be like when it's actually crowded with real passengers.

As for the outdoor heaters, does any other ship have these? How do the Oasis-class ships keep Central Park from getting too chilly at night?

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