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Topic: BLEU DE FRANCE to SAGA SAPPHIRE

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 03-26-2012 02:17 PM

Then and Now

More Saga Sapphire

Pam

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 03-26-2012 02:30 PM

Thank you, Pam, for all the great photos. I cannot say I am trilled with Saga's new funnel logo, but otherwise the ship looks fine. The new balcony-staterooms look fine and look as if they were always part of the ship. Long may she sail!

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 03-26-2012 02:46 PM

I borrowed two of your shots to look at both the Sapphire if she had the more traditional funnel livery, and also the Ruby with the new livery..

Traditional Sapphire

Revised Ruby?

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 03-26-2012 03:35 PM

Great Thad

Hmm, well, I do really like [honest] the new livery on SAGA SAPPHIRE, but somehow it does not look quite right on SAGA RUBY. When is she going to be done?

Pam

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 03-26-2012 03:54 PM

I was told this morning that the port side livery of the funnel is completely different from the starboard side. Apparently the forward half is shaded blue, with white on the aft half, bearing the name "Saga."

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02177/saga_2177690b.jpg

Pam, can you confirm that?

Rich

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OceanVoyager
First Class Passenger
Member # 5585

posted 03-26-2012 05:46 PM

Nice pics Pam.
Here are my selection, firstly on the way hoem from work this evening...

Here she is earlier in the day being passed by one of the World's largest container ships, the flagship of the French Line CMA CGM...

Brgds,
Andrew

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 03-26-2012 06:13 PM

Any getting aboard? I am anxious to see the interiors.

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dougnewman
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Member # 11349

posted 03-26-2012 06:23 PM

She looks good except for the funnel, which is dreadful. Gradients do not belong on funnels!

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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Member # 5641

posted 03-26-2012 06:27 PM

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Hi Pam

Great pictures as usual.

I would have thought that during the refit she would have been fitted with covered lifeboats but from the pictures it appears she still has several open boats.
.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 03-26-2012 06:30 PM

The funnel is awful but Saga did a fantastic job on the new verandas. They look a little like a covered promenade deck directly under the boats.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 03-26-2012 06:51 PM

'Then'

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 03-26-2012 06:59 PM

So she is already acquainted with her now fleetmate

Pam

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DAMBROSI2
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Member # 35998

posted 03-26-2012 08:19 PM

Excellent photos Pam, that's the kind of ship I would take a cruise on...nothing big. It's just right. BTW, I didn't think a graduated funnel looked bad on the SS NORWAY:

I'm scanning all of my photos from my 1994 cruise. I still have to resize my images, so I apologize for the hugeness of the photo.

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dmwnc1
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posted 03-27-2012 12:21 AM

Pam,

Wonderful pictures as always! THANK YOU for sharing them with us.

However, I will have to throw my hat in the ring with those who think the new funnel livery is just awful.

I think a single solid color or a distinct visual separation of two or more colors (as shown in the old SS Norway pictures) would have been better, but other than the light blue/medium blue colors they have chosen.

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rustaveli
First Class Passenger
Member # 1708

posted 03-27-2012 02:25 AM

Thank You very much for the pictures!! One lifeboat less (well two) and the magrodome is gone too.. That's a little strange for a world traveller, but anyway she still has a covered pool.. a very extensive job they made!

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 03-27-2012 08:18 AM

You are right Rich, entirely different to port. I can't say I think much of this view, but she does appear to need a bit of a wash down up there and the view was very hazy

Lovely photos Andrew. I too saw CMA CGM CHRISTOPHE COLOMB arrive, and you are a spec in one of my pictures, you might be able to find yourself here Surprising there were so few people around, she has better hull lines and curves than SAGA SAPPHIRE.

Pam

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 03-28-2012 03:33 PM

WOW! Saga did a good job with the added balconies. Looks as if she had it the whole time. I don't mind the graduated funnel color scheme, but I think it would be much better if they gave it a clean look rather than have someone squiggle something on it.

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Danpc5
First Class Passenger
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posted 03-28-2012 06:23 PM

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Danpc5
First Class Passenger
Member # 74766

posted 03-28-2012 06:28 PM

I have not enjoyed the new SAGA livery. It's not bad, but the yellow funnel looks quite better.

I had the pleasure of being onboard her last year, and is really an amazing ship. SAGA did a good job on her interior, but changed almost everything from the original.

I will not say that she was better before, but was also not bad. There's some photos of her interior as Bleu de France here. It's good to compare with the new interiors on Sapphires blog.

One of the ship's more enjoyable places was the Zan-Zi Bar, in my opnion, but SAGA just removed that...

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 03-29-2012 07:54 AM

A pity SAGA PEARL II & SAGA SAPPHIRE are not berthed closer together. Again a haze but a chance to compare.

The distance:-

Cutting out the middlet:-

Pam

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 03-29-2012 11:52 AM

It's funny to see Europa, Vistafjord, Astor (and also Berlin) in the Saga fleet - all ships that were well established and competing in the German market.
Thanks for the nice panorama.

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OceanVoyager
First Class Passenger
Member # 5585

posted 03-31-2012 07:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Lovely photos Andrew. I too saw CMA CGM CHRISTOPHE COLOMB arrive, and you are a spec in one of my pictures, you might be able to find yourself Pam

Guilty as charged Pam. You can see me in the far left - just!

Andrew

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 04-02-2012 02:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Cutting out the middlet:-
Pam

I'm sorry if I've overlooked the explanation, but why are there two different liveries for the funnels of the two Saga ships?

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 04-04-2012 01:40 PM

SAGA SAPPHIRE is the new Saga livery and SAGA PEARL II is in the previous one... whether or not she will be repainted I don't know, as in May she become QUEST FOR ADVENTURE. I have not seen anything stated by Saga themselves as to even if SAGA RUBY will take the new colours either, although others seem to think so. Even SAGA SAPPHIRE has a "yellow" funnel on their website.

She finally departed on her inaugural cruise for Saga yesterday around 17:20, a day later than the original amended itinerary and after several departure times having been listed and changed. In the freezing cold, wind and rain, puffing away rather grandly

More here and of the smoke on YouTube.

Pam

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Danpc5
First Class Passenger
Member # 74766

posted 04-04-2012 08:34 PM

Someone has a link with the original deck plans of the ship?

I tryed to find this to compare the Europa deck plans with the Bleu de France ones, and now even with the Saga Shappire plans too. But I never found.

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