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Frosty 4
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posted 05-31-2012 10:24 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Seems like the cruise lines have cut some staff and other things due to the economy.
Cabin Stewards now are resonsible for 18 cabins up from 16.
Princess has stop printing the World News papers(for different countries) Also no where near all the advertising sheets for the Spa, etc. Most info on Princess Patter.
I asked about the paper and they said to use the Internet Cafe. $$$$. I get 250 free minutes now and only used half. There is usually a waiting line to get a PC station. Just checked e- mails so others could use the cafe.
On our recent cruise CNN -which did NOT cover US news --was the only other source of news.
Their satellite system was out of order also.????Maybe they cut their service???
Has anyone else noted this on other cruise lines??
Seems like we don't get any cruise reports,yet Dave has his list of upcoming cruise for many CTers????
Frosty4

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Tom Burke
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posted 05-31-2012 10:54 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here in the UK I'm not seeing empty ships or dramatic reductions in prices. (At least. not officially.) In fact P&O & Cunard, the two biggest lines in the UK market, implemented a reduction in TA commission which has had the effect of doing away with the small discounts that TAs, especially on-line TAs, used to offer: now everyone is offering the same official price, which means that prices have effectively gone up a little bit.

Anecdotally, there are stories about fewer give-aways on board, but I would have put this down to revenue-maximisation rather coping with a recession. Certainly P&O's traditional early-season promotions are still in place: free car parking at Southampton or free coach journeys, some OBC.

To be honest, for the typical (older) cruise passenger here in the UK, it's a case of "recession? what recession?". If you're working, or got a steady pension, and living in your own home (i.e. not renting) then you're probably quite comfortable.


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linerguy
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posted 05-31-2012 12:24 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On our Sapphire Princess cruise last month the one thing we did notice was that the quality of the food has diminished. Now, I must admit: my last Princess cruise was on the old Crown Princess, but the food was wonderful.

Service-wise, our experience couldn't have been better. We certainly didn't see what appeared to be cut backs in staff. We usually timed going to dinner at about 8 to 830pm (we had anytime dining) and we almost always had wait staff falling over us. If our room steward was given more cabins to service, it didn't hurt the job he did for us.

If they are cutting back on the amount of paper they're using, such as for a daily newspaper, I don't have a problem with it as I've always thought it was a waste. And of course flyers for things like "gold by the inch" and "watch sales" always ended up in the can anyway, so, again, cutting back doesn't bother me. Not sure what version of CNN you had (is there more than one?), but we had plenty of US news available to watch.

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posted 05-31-2012 03:46 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There must be more than one feed for CNN once you leave the North American area. We noticed the same thing when we went to OZ and NZ.
One thing I did not mention in my cruise report was they had a Pub lunch in the Crown Grill. No charge. We had Fish and Chips, very good. They had this 2 days.
They had WiFi on this ship. I was told by the person maning the Internet Cafe to use the cafe at the WiFi was slow. I did check to see if I had good pickup and it was OK. I have WiFi capability on my Tablet PC.
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reeves35
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posted 05-31-2012 10:39 PM      Profile for reeves35   Email reeves35   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most of these things sound like cost minisation which would be a constant in all businesses. Why print a brochure, it you can adveretise via the onboard TV etc?

Cruising is not recession proof because, like all holidays, it is discretionary spending. Having said that, the all-inclusive nature of cruising makes it attractive in that you basically know what you are up for before you leave. I wouldn't be surprised if cruiselines introduced a package that includes alcohol (like Club Med) to further emphasise this.

There are 2 CNN feeds, which one you get depends on where you are. There is the US CNN which is very US focussed and sits between MSNBC and Fox on the political spectrum. There is also CNN International which is basically for everywhere else. It has much more international content with studios in Hong Kong, London etc as well as Atlanta.


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jetwet1
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posted 06-03-2012 09:04 AM      Profile for jetwet1   Author's Homepage   Email jetwet1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We have noticed the cut backs on Princess and HAL, staffing in the kitchen areas being the main one.

Also I noted on our last Princess cruise, there were 7 tv channels, 4 were carrying advertising for Princess, 1 carried CNN, 1 carried movies which repeated every 4 days (on a 7 day cruise) and one carried a variety of channels, mostly Discovery.

Now, while I know we are not meant to spend a large amount of time in our cabins, but there are times when we (meaning the wife and I) just like to lay back and relax, the tv selection really didn't help with that.

One thing that is missing from this thread is fuel prices, it shot up and really, because of the soft economy, the cruise lines couldn't pass that along without having a dip in bookings. As noted the cruise prices really have not gone up in the last couple of years, so somewhere there has to be a break for the lines, the easy place to hit first is food, both the quality and the number of people preparing it.


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