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I'm pretty surprised at the era specific bow.
I blogged about the passenger-space-ratio and stuff here:
http://wp.me/pfRKD-1Th
quote:Originally posted by Salaison:When I see it, I will believe it lol....I like Cunard take on this " Cunard says it will never make any vessel with anything resembling Titanic in its name."
I never really understood why they insist on referring to White Star service at Cunard. Not Titanic but close.
quote:Originally posted by Salaison:I like Cunard take on this " Cunard says it will never make any vessel with anything resembling Titanic in its name."
The QM2 was inspired by Cameron's Titanic movie according to Micky Ariston.
quote:Originally posted by Mattsudds:I never really understood why they insist on referring to White Star service at Cunard. Not Titanic but close.
Because they were trying to capitalize on the popularity of the movie. They started using the name in their materials right after the movie was such a hit.
http://news.sky.com/story/1057414/titanic-ii-clive-palmer-unveils-replica-plans
It'd be interesting to see how it turns out. And if several years down the road and the whole business side of it doesn't work out, perhaps a line like AIDA or NCL can purchase her and paint some art on her hull. Can you imagine the signature AIDA eyes and lips on a ship that looks like the Titanic?!?
That 8-minute video detailing each deck was pretty amazing. THANKS for the link.
- I imagine they'll have smoking in all of the Smoking Rooms? Not just on one side of the ship? That's a lot of public space wasted.
- No pools topside? Keeping with the original, of course. I guess you could just sit out on deck and read (for six days), but who does that anymore?
- There's a theater and a casino. In one video he said 'no TV's and no internet', but he then says 'all the modern amenities'. Wonder if he just means hot and cold water and a ladder to get to that top bunk bed in the 2nd Class cabins.
- They'll need more elevators. Those are TINY!
- The Observation Windows in the forward stacks are weird, and mess up the general similar appearance of the four stacks.
- He mentioned something about being to switch between different classes of accommodations during the cruise. Wonder how that's going to work?
- Dress code on this should be a hoot. Long tail tuxedos and ball gowns in 1st, khaki work clothes and flannel for 3rd. What do 2nd Class folks wear?
- This ship comes out the same time as Oasis-3, and for the same ticket cost I'll pick the one that has ALL of the creature comforts I need instead of the one that comes with period costumes for rent?
- I can see doing this for a day or two, but for six days crossing the Atlantic. I'd be bored to death. And having access to only 1/3 of the ship, if he sticks to a Class-system, isn't all that appealing.
- There's no wrap around promenade deck. No one who cruises Princess will be caught dead on this ship.
For example they say 56,000 gt approx and 2,435 passengers. That's a worse passenger-space ratio than most mass-market ships.
I think that he needs to fit a pool on the fan tail to please modern man!
It's still not clear how the three classes will work and dine?
Will there be a fake/replica bridge?
[ 02-27-2013: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:...there are a lot of loose ends to clarify and tie-up! For example they say 56,000 gt approx and 2,435 passengers. That's a worse passenger-space ratio than most mass-market ships.I think that he needs to fit a pool on the fan tail to please modern man!It's still not clear how the three classes will work and dine? Will there be a fake/replica bridge?[ 02-27-2013: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
What i can't figure out is how all those passengers fit. He says that they are doing first and second classes accurately but third will be replaced by the current standard of cabin. If that is done there is no way they can hold the same number of passengers.The foot print of a modern cabin would probably take the space of two of the old third class cabins. That means that in the space that 8 people has been staying they will only have 2-4. The larger GT seems to be mostly related to the extra deck and slight widening of the ship, not enough to counter the larger cabins in order to have the same capacity.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:...there are a lot of loose ends to clarify and tie-up! Will there be a fake/replica bridge?
I saw this about the bridge:
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:[QUOTE]Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:[qb]There is a good video here which gives more details of Palmer's plans:http://news.sky.com/story/1057414/titanic-ii-clive-palmer-unveils-replica-plans[/QUO TE]That 8-minute video detailing each deck was pretty amazing. THANKS for the link.- I imagine they'll have smoking in all of the Smoking Rooms? Not just on one side of the ship? That's a lot of public space wasted. - No pools topside? Keeping with the original, of course. I guess you could just sit out on deck and read (for six days), but who does that anymore?- There's a theater and a casino. In one video he said 'no TV's and no internet', but he then says 'all the modern amenities'. Wonder if he just means hot and cold water and a ladder to get to that top bunk bed in the 2nd Class cabins. - They'll need more elevators. Those are TINY!- The Observation Windows in the forward stacks are weird, and mess up the general similar appearance of the four stacks.- He mentioned something about being to switch between different classes of accommodations during the cruise. Wonder how that's going to work?- Dress code on this should be a hoot. Long tail tuxedos and ball gowns in 1st, khaki work clothes and flannel for 3rd. What do 2nd Class folks wear?- This ship comes out the same time as Oasis-3, and for the same ticket cost I'll pick the one that has ALL of the creature comforts I need instead of the one that comes with period costumes for rent?- I can see doing this for a day or two, but for six days crossing the Atlantic. I'd be bored to death. And having access to only 1/3 of the ship, if he sticks to a Class-system, isn't all that appealing.- There's no wrap around promenade deck. No one who cruises Princess will be caught dead on this ship.[/QB]
- There's no wrap around promenade deck. No one who cruises Princess will be caught dead on this ship.[/QB]
I also was fascinated that in one of the links it was talked about that the 3rd class will have, just like the original Titanic, shared bathrooms.
Most of us look back at the good old days of cruising but I don't any of us is looking back to the beginning of the 20th century and sharing bathrooms with who knows who.
quote:Originally posted by FL_Cruiser64:I also was fascinated that in one of the links it was talked about that the 3rd class will have, just like the original Titanic, shared bathrooms.
Yes Palmer says this, but his first set of plans (on-line somewhere) say ""The lower deck cabins are said to be "typical for a modern cruise vessel" while cabins and public rooms from D deck upwards are "as in the original ship".
So maybe the steerage is not so steerage after all! Who would buy them, anyway?
Buy all means give them an 'old' look but a private toilet is essential!
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:I saw this about the bridge:
It makes no sense really as the crew would not be able to look out their windows easily apart from to see tourists!
Titanic II Deck Plans
The renderings are coming thick and fast: Public Rooms
Oh, here's that rather poor space ratio:
Quantum class:Double: 4,100 (40.61)GT: 166,500
Oasis class:Double: 5,400 (41.72)GT: 225,282
Titanic IIDouble: 2,435 (22.99)GT: 56,000 (estimated)
quote:Originally posted by FL_Cruiser64:I also was fascinated that in one of the links it was talked about that the 3rd class will have, just like the original Titanic, shared bathrooms.Most of us look back at the good old days of cruising but I don't any of us is looking back to the beginning of the 20th century and sharing bathrooms with who knows who.
I can just see the headlines now:
Titanic II hit by 'Norovirus iceberg'
quote:Originally posted by DAMBROSI2:So, the question I have for all of you; would you sail the TITANIC II?
If they built it, I'd have to come!
Yes! I'm a Royal Caribbean fan but I have always wanted to sail the Queen Mary 2 on a transatlantic just for the liner experience. This would be even better than that, so I could see it taking some of those "one time experience" cruisers away from Cunard.
quote:Originally posted by DAMBROSI2:Well, if I had the money; I'd sail the new TITANIC II, no matter what. We can say we finally have something out there that looks like a ship. So, the question I have for all of you; would you sail the TITANIC II?
I doubt I would. For sure not in 3rd class. I don't see the attraction having school cafeteria style meals, sharing a bathroom with others etc. Plus the ship is too small for today's age and society to have a 3 class system. 7 days at sea and you are reduced to a very small area on that ship? No way.
If I ever HAVE TO travel on that ship I probably book 1st class but that won't be happening.
We are talking about a ship class that is smaller than the Majesty of the Seas in a 3 class configuration.
Besides historical value there is no value for me to go on this ship. But the historical value goes out of the window with the fact that it will be sailing a few more years. This is, in my opinion, exploitation of a terrible tragedy. No doubt he will find enough suckers for that ship.For that guy to say that he will be mostly in 3rd class to eat irish stew and dance irish dances: RIGHT! I doubt he will book a bunk bed style cabin, eat in the school cafeteria style dining room and share a bathroom with 100s of fellow passengers. So he will go down to steerage right before he goes to sleep in his first class cabin. LOL. But a nice sales job nevertheless.
After the maiden voyage, which probably will attract some Titanic nuts with $1 million dollars to spare, Palmer will have 2,435 berths to fill. Possibly some of them will be small and basic?
There will be so many more comfortable ships to choose from out there!
The only issue is that you may have to share the ship with half of China and get used to noodles and rice with every meal.
[ 03-01-2013: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
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