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RobHolland
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posted 04-09-2004 10:04 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is something that annoys you when you cruise and seems to happen practically everytime, no matter what line you sail? Something I get very annoyed about are people who occupy several deck chairs with their towels in the early morning and return after visiting the port of call, expecting they can slide down 'their' place for the rest of the day.

Passengers who see that the chairs are unused and take them for their own use, most often even can expect a verbal fight with these rude people.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-09-2004 03:25 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate it when the crew turn miserable on the disembarkation morning. They stop smiling and no longer open doors for the guests, etc. It suddenly become obvious that the whole cruise was all one big act to get a good tip.

In fairness it does not happen with all staff and on all lines. The worst example I’ve ever had was on Celebrities Mercury. Possibly the most consistently friendly staff were with Fred.Olsen


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Green
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posted 04-09-2004 11:54 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate disembarkation day - it has to come but surely it could be more humane.

Having finally put the bags out for collection, one wonders if it's worth going to bed - you know that announcements will start around 0600 - the first 'Good Morning' blurb by (sounds to me like) an overly cheerful sounding Cruise Director or the like who is desperate to see the back of you. Then, for at least the next 3 hours we are harangued to do this, do that, go there, stay here, don't sit there etc. etc. and the endless 'pages' to the morons who have not paid their bill - surely the night staff could annoy them between 0200 and 0600 hours, jog their memories and collect what's owing thereby allowing others an extra hour of sleep......many of us face a very long day to complete the journey home. Have to say that most HAL personnel do project the 'we loved having you' image - it's the one saving grace.

On our last trip we arrived at the airport (FLL) at 0945 - our flight was not scheduled to depart before 1500 (it was about an hour late) - you can't check in; you can't stow anything; buggies are in short supply and again the announcements keep coming - "unattended luggage.....You know the rest.....maybe a post- cruise night at the Line's chosen hotel - costly! - but - your room will not be available until at least noon

THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY - we've yet to find it!

[ 04-10-2004: Message edited by: Green ]


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bmajor
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posted 04-10-2004 02:25 AM      Profile for bmajor   Email bmajor   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only thing that annoys me
is the new word that has crept
into the language......

debarking ........


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-10-2004 05:45 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bmajor:
The only thing that annoys me
is the new word that has crept
into the language......

debarking ........


Well us Brit's don't use it! We still 'disembark'.

[ 04-10-2004: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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PamM
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posted 04-10-2004 05:51 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:

THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY - we've yet to find it!

Yup, you vacate your cabin, stow your hand luggage in the purser's office, spend the morning on the ship doing what you want, swimming, reading whatever. Have lunch in the restaurant, watch the new pax board, and then disembark at the appropriate time through the crew exit. A nice touch by MSC and very much appreciated as our flight was late pm. About 2 coachloads of pax did this, no hassle for anyone. All that was asked was that we congregated in a certain lounge at our due departure time, to disembark altogether so they didn't have to page us.
Pam


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Barryboat
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posted 04-10-2004 09:01 AM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One annoyance I have is when passengers rush to get off the ship like a mad cattle call. Take your time, relax. A lot of the fault goes to the passengers who seem to think they absolutely MUST be the first to leave the ship. Jamming up in the lobby waiting and waiting, some holding their heavy luggage...it's nonsense. I usually make a leisurely departure, after the mad rush. I can understand if some pax have an early flight, but most do not.

I too noticed that crew would be less friendly on the disembarkation day...mostly because they want to get all the pax off the ship ASAP so they can go ashore and do the neccessary once-a-week duties, like going to the post office, making phone calls to home, etc. Disembarkation day is one of the most stressful days for crew on cruise ships, because there is so much going on, so much to do, you've done your job for a whole week, maybe even made some friends, all the pax leave, then in a short time a whole new group of pax comes onboard...and then once again the smiles come on and your job starts again for another week.

[ 04-10-2004: Message edited by: Barryboat ]


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posted 04-10-2004 10:07 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Barryboat:
One annoyance I have is when passengers rush to get off the ship like a mad cattle call. Take your time, relax. A lot of the fault goes to the passengers who seem to think they absolutely MUST be the first to leave the ship.
They'll almost certainly be the same people who want to be the first on the ship on embarkation day. As well as the people who want to be the first onto the aircraft and the first off it ...

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annnthony
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posted 04-10-2004 06:34 PM      Profile for annnthony   Email annnthony   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Easy choice.....ship's photographers....mindless shots at the gangway at each port, backing up traffic, and, then, those stupid beheading pirate shots entering the dining room.....I can't believe anyone ever purchased any of them!!!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-10-2004 07:12 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY - we've yet to find it!

Don't NCL's Freestyle supposedly offer a more civilised was to debark (I mean disembark!)

Well does it work, anyone?


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PamM
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posted 04-10-2004 07:21 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes Malcolm, you don't have to vacate your cabin until it's your turn to 'debark' [Ugh, I hate the term too, but it is actually as correct as disembark, even in my little pocket Oxford.]
It works and is fine, but doesn't help the hanging around if your flight isn't until late pm or evening. NCL usually provide day rooms at local hotels for UK pax if you book flights through them though. I suspect most other lines do too?
Pam

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Cambodge
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posted 04-10-2004 08:22 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It started when airline people used the word "deplane."

Then in the era when Amtrak was run by non-railroaders, they used the word "detrain," which I always thought was worse. Now, in more professional hands, "detrain" is forbidden. I have not been aboard in recent years to know what word is used. I remember conductors saying "Exit," as in "Exit through the doors on the front of the car," which seemed to suffice.

"De-bark" matches "em-bark," and I do not regard it as too egregious a sematinc sin. It is a little awkward to attache"dis" to the word "embark." But I shall do so to please the multitudes.


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Brian_O
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posted 04-10-2004 11:31 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The word "debark" was around long before airplanes (or aeroplanes if you prefer). It is derived from the french verb "debarquer", which in its imperative form means, loosely translated, "get the hell off my boat".

Brian


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mec1
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posted 04-11-2004 05:57 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate -

The rubbishy "art" and endless art auctions that seem to feature aboard every ship with tripy paintings even replacing some of the artwork commissioned for public areas.

Passengers who choose the narrowest alleyway/ busiest doorway to hold interminable conversations.

Passengers at the breakfast buffet who inspect every rasher of bacon as though there is a winning piece lurking somewhere, then totter to the coffee/ tea machines to dither for ten minutes over making a cup of tea.

90% of shipboard shows which confuse sequins and noise with style, wit and invention.

I LOVE:

Seeing my cabin for the first time.

Sunset walks alone on deck.

Days in ports you've been to before, when you can have the entire ship to yourself.

High Obeservation Lounges overlooking the bow.

Arriving in/ sailing from ANYWHERE (but especially Sydney and San Francisco.

Waterloo Station because it signals the start of another flying-free cruise.

Being on any ship for however long whenever I can get there.

Mike


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linerguy
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posted 04-12-2004 12:19 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not at all fond of those annoying announcements......you know, the "Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen that, in ten minutes, five minutes, three minutes time, the art auction will begin". I especially loathe "You won't want to miss it!". Now how the hell does this person know what I want to see or miss? That's what's great about Celebrity and HAL: Announcements are kept to a minimum.

Another thing I really can't stand is to see cigarette butts, plastic cups, etc., in the scuppers. Or when folks think that on top of the nearest garbage can is the best place to sit a dozen empty glasses....especially if they're filled with cigarette butts. It's just gross.

On the flip side, one of my favorite things is that split second right before I step aboard......my imagination is ticking at it's finest. My absolute favorite thing is the first walk through all of the public rooms and deck spaces......matchless.

Russ


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wile1170
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posted 04-14-2004 12:38 PM      Profile for wile1170   Email wile1170   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahhh yes!! Annoyances....
1) The same "welcome aboard" show on every ship with the same jokes about cruising....oh, it's funny the first time you cruise, but come on...think of new material.
2) People that load their plates & trays on the buffets with enough food to feed and army, as if they haven't had a meal in weeks...then you see them 15 minutes later leaving the buffet; and wasting half the food they took.
3) Cruise "know-it-alls"...okay, I know a lot about the cruise industry, ships, ports, etc....but I don't go around on the cruise bragging about it like some people...how annoying!!
4) The "Royal Caribbean is the greatest" crowd...usually made up of people that have never tried any other cruise line...
5) The ever expanding shopping tables that seem to litter the "shopping arcade" areas on the ship with the excellent deals on "name brand" watches, gemstones, etc...it's starting to look like a flea market lately.

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claudio
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posted 04-15-2004 08:51 AM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i hate the onboard shops as they are full of the most tasteless t shirts and crap like that but the thing i hate the most is those gold chains by the metre who is stupid enough to buy them, i hate the arrogant cruise staff who seem to think they are onboard to improve their tan and it really pisses them off when a passenger has the audacity to ask them a question. i just adore walking into the dining room and being shown my seat. i cant wait for my next cruise
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Rego007
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posted 04-24-2004 06:58 AM      Profile for Rego007     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about the ones that start complaining as soon as they arrive at the terminal? They complain about the check-in line, complain about the (life)boat drill, and so on, throughout the cruise.

Look folks. For a week you won't be answering phones (until recently, anyway), making beds, doing laundry, working or driving in traffic. So you wait in line for an hour. And 30 minutes in the boad drill. So what?!!

Another is wild, unsupervised kids. I'm all for having fun, but when it affects others' comfort it's another matter. Thankfully, some lines are addressing this.

My final pet peeve is when the good folks on the bridge don't sound the ship's whistle (preferably 3 times) on departure. I know this sounds petty, but nothing symbolizes the start of a cruise like hearing the ship's whistle. Remember how the never missed it on "Love Boat"?


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phil_a
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posted 04-24-2004 08:40 AM      Profile for phil_a   Email phil_a   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rego007 you haved summed it up perfectly - esp the last comment!!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-24-2004 11:23 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:
"De-bark" matches "em-bark....

Yes it does, but it's not in my version of the English Dictionary. Just another example of American's messing with my Language!


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Brian_O
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posted 04-24-2004 06:49 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Yes it does, but it's not in my version of the English Dictionary. Just another example of American's messing with my Language!


Sorry, Malcom but you seem to need a better dictionary. (Don't we all? ) The word "debark" and its derivation from the french word "debarquer" is in the OED (Oxford English Dictionary). It is NOT a so-called americanization (or americanisation if you prefer, but OED recognizes both -isation and -ization as being correct.)


Brian

P.S. BTW, I think it's a crime that the CD ROM version of the OED 2nd Edition (the best dictionary on the planet) was priced at close to $1000 US so that only university libraries and the idle rich could afford it. If they had priced it at $45 they could have sold
at least 1000 copies for every one they have actually sold and all we mere mortals would be better off for having a copy.

[ 04-24-2004: Message edited by: Brian_O ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-24-2004 08:10 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
The word "debark" and its derivation from the french word "debarquer" is in the OED (Oxford English Dictionary)

I stand corrected! A ‘French’ word, you say? Now the French are messing with my language!


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Green
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posted 04-24-2004 09:20 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welllll! - my published in 1964, Fifth Edition, The Concise Oxford Dictionary shows 'debark' = disembark, hence debarkation

Also shows 'disembark'.


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Green
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posted 04-24-2004 09:23 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welllll! - my published in 1964, Fifth Edition, The Concise Oxford Dictionary shows 'debark' = disembark, hence debarkation

Also shows 'disembark'.


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Brian_O
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posted 04-25-2004 12:09 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:
Welllll! - my published in 1964, Fifth Edition, The Concise Oxford Dictionary shows 'debark' = disembark, hence debarkation

Also shows 'disembark'.


Right! The = means that the two words are variations rather than mere synonyms. The same situation occurs in French; debarquer = désembarquer. The point of my post was that "debark" is a proper english word rather than an americanisation.

Brian


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