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Maasdam
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posted 03-14-2005 06:42 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I now that you are train lovers so here are 3 pictures of Dutch trains.


The Arend Netherlands first train 1839 between Amsterdam and Haarlem.


streamlined diesel trains midt '30's


Modern railstock Double deck intercity.

Dutch national railway museum


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Onno
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posted 03-14-2005 08:59 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know the museum well. My dad is an engineer for the Dutch railway and as a kid my parents took me many times to Utrecht to watch the old trains.

The museum is undergoing a major refit. Which should be finished in a couple of years. For the refit a couple of the old trains were relocated for maintenance and to store while the museum is upgraded. This meant the trains had to be transported via normal railway and this was rather special because most of the trains haven’t been seen in public for over 40 years.

Onno


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Johan
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posted 03-14-2005 09:01 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Ben
though not as ardent as a liner fan
count me on amongst those interested in Trains !

Train Talk would be interesting
or otherwise a little subdivision of CT, "Getting to a Ship on Land"?

The first train in Belgium was in 1835, between Brussels and Mechelen.

The great Railway Museum in Mulhouse reopened some days ago.

The Swiss National Train Museum in Luzern has, apart from a fabulous Raffaelo model, a lot of trains in its collection.

There are museum trains in Belgium in MAldegem and MAriembourg (where there is also a small museum). Trains are easier to preserve than liners !

Near Rostock (with the Georg Buchner) are two working steam trains, the Rasender Roland, on the Island Rugen, and the "Molli" between Bad Doberan, Heiligendam and Kuhlungsborn. This little train rides literally through the streets of Bad Doberan, and then off to the seaside resorts. A strange experience.

Ah, the Romance of Trains

J


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sslewis
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posted 03-15-2005 07:24 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about the LNER(Not a mispelled Liners) trains in the UK?
Those fantastically streamlined Locos often paused by the Cunard Queens in Soton, in War and Peace as my postcards shows!
I think I gave a copy to Onno or Pam?
Louy, who found the best Liners stuff in Trainshops!

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6263866
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posted 03-15-2005 10:49 AM      Profile for 6263866   Email 6263866   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am also a considerable rail-fan. Thats not the Flying-Hamburger in the middle is it?
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Onno
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posted 03-15-2005 11:14 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
no that is pure dutch design and far more elegeant then the Flying Hamburger which is German.
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mec1
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posted 03-15-2005 01:28 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LNER trains never got near a Cunard Queen.

The dutch double decker trains are fantastic....


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Onno
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posted 03-15-2005 08:15 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The double-decker in the third picture above was designed by the studio of a teacher of mine, I always sit on the lower level because when I sit on the upper level the air co system gives me a headache.

The first picture above is a replica made of the original Arend (eagle) the replica was build in 1939 for the 100 year anniversary of the NS (Dutch railway). 50 years later for the 150 year anniversary during a large train show event in Utrecht the Arend steamed on a custom made track, because the Arend is too wide to ride on modern narrow tracks. As a kid I loved riding first, second and third class on the Arend, it made me realize how terrible it was to ride a steam train while sitting in an open carriage. Btw, the difference between classes was: Third was open and had wooden benches, second was open but the side could be covered with canvas and had seat coverings on benches and first was closed and had glass windows also fully covered seats and if you had cold feet you could rent a tin canister filled with hot water from the boilers.

The second picture is a diesel-electric train known as the diesel III. Painted in a silvery grey and both ends shaped like a droplet it fitted very well in the stream line design of the 30’s. It was designed by the NS in collaboration with the Zeppelin Werke in Friedrichshafen. (so a little bit German after all )

Onno


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nevadaflip
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posted 03-16-2005 12:37 AM      Profile for nevadaflip        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Ben for the pictures and thanks to all for the comments as well.

Here in Carson City (population only about 50,000), the capital of Nevada we have a State Railroad Museum. It is a wonderful site and has restored many locomotives and rail cars and has frequent events where they will "steam them up" and offer rides around a relatively short set of tracks.

It features primarily the stock of the Virginia and Truckee Railroad, which was an historic railroad here in Northern Nevada linking famous comstock mining city of Virginia City with Carson City, Reno and ultimately Minden. Many of the restored engines and cars have been featured in "cowboy" movies from Hollywood.

Take a look at: http://www.nsrm-friends.org/

The money finally has been raised to buy right of way, lay new track and recreate the old V&T from Carson City to Virginia City again and the building is now underway. It will be a great ride and should bring lots of train fans to our area.

We would love to have you all visit some day.

Regards,

Jerry


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Maasdam
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posted 03-16-2005 12:49 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The second picture is a diesel-electric train known as the diesel III. Painted in a silvery grey and both ends shaped like a droplet it fitted very well in the stream line design of the 30’s. It was designed by the NS in collaboration with the Zeppelin Werke in Friedrichshafen. (so a little bit German after all )

Onno the design off the D3 was lasting after this design N.S. opted this design 4 other types of trains. Here some pictures.
D3 in color

Mat 36.

DE1

DE2

Camell the privat train off the Dutch railway board of directors.

And a converted post coach.


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Onno
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posted 03-16-2005 01:02 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ben, did you know that they are going to restore the camel into her original green colours and original interiors. I think the yellow and bleu livery of the NS (as current) is the strongest and best livery. The green colour before that was (if I recall correctly) the favourite colour of the wife of the president of the NS (It proofs that the wife should not meddle in the business affairs of the husband)
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