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sslewis
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posted 12-05-2003 05:46 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most submarines carrying passengers are rather small and limited in range.
Yet, Navies of the World have huge fleets of laid up nuclear submarines.
Contrarily to belief, they are much safer and cleaner than some cruise ships, despite occasional press outcries whilst gracing ports!
Think of the advantages as pure transport-schedule unaffected by weather, speed, comfort; or even private or corporate yachts?
I can see a market and would like to hear from similarly minded.
ssLewis

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cruiseny
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posted 12-05-2003 06:01 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
First, they probably contain a lot of technology that isn't exactly available to the general public, and that would have to be removed.

Second, said general public is terrified of nuclear anything.

Third, the confined interior spaces probably wouldn't play well with a general public that often won't even cruise without a balcony, let alone without a cabin.

It's a fascinating idea and would be quite a novelty but I doubt it could happen.


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RICHARD CHUDY
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posted 12-05-2003 06:37 PM      Profile for RICHARD CHUDY   Email RICHARD CHUDY   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go to www.ussubs.com
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CGT
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posted 12-05-2003 06:49 PM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yup, I'm not a fan of nuclear powered anything at all and secondly, would not ever travel in a submarine as you describe. Something goes wrong and you are entombed like the poor souls on board the Kursk. Just unbelievably horrible!

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Onno
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posted 12-05-2003 06:52 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cruiseny:
Second, said general public is terrified of nuclear anything.

Third, the confined interior spaces probably wouldn't play well with a general public that often won't even cruise without a balcony, let alone without a cabin.


The general public indeed but remember that a supposed audience for this would be a elite group willing to pay for such a way of travelling just for the trill of it, just like there is a group willing to pay for QE2’s mystique.

Who would have thought people would pay to sit in a crammed up bubble sub for many hours to get a few minutes glimpse of a rusting metal named Titanic!

There is always a market the only trick for someone bold enough to recognize this market is to lure an audience to this market in some sort of way. There are enough people who fell for the Tell sell commercials and buy complete useless stuff so why would there be a small scale audience for submarine travel.

You could have several themes like rein act the days of the cold war.

Of course there is the safety rules which probably are harder to comply with then finding an audience!

Best, Onno


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sympatico
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posted 12-05-2003 09:27 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back in 1982 we were docked bow to stern the Gat, a nuclear sub in Barbados for 3 days. We had the opportunity to take a tour of the sub and believe you me, I was glad to get out of there. Talk about claustrophobic!

Space is very small as are the sleeping quarters & mess. To pass other people in the corriders, you had to turn to the side and that was in my "thinner" days.

One of the entertainers come on board with us and he got out of there as fast as he could.

And, to climb the ladder to get in and out of the sub was very difficult.

The sailors thought it was great being docked with us as they could look through the periscope at all the gals in their their bikinis.

There is no way I would want to be in a submerged sub, but then I guess for some people it is an adventure.


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Maasdam
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posted 12-06-2003 05:23 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whene you work as a mariner a/b a submarine you must be a very balnced persone. Will you able to stay fore a large period under water, without that you start to be grazy. I don't think submarine in a transport role will never happend.
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