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Cunard Fan
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posted 02-06-2007 11:36 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am currently working on a revel 1:400 model of the QM2. Right now I am in the process of painting it. I was wondering should I paint the super structure? Or should I just leave it alone since it is already white?
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posted 02-06-2007 11:41 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It will look pathetic if you do not paint it. You might have noticed that there are other colors too beside white.
My recommendation: Use spray color - epecially for the white - you want a THIN layer of paint in the balconies - which you will learn to hate.
If you have not done this before - try the spray color on something else before and get used to it.

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posted 02-06-2007 11:56 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am definatly going to paint everything that is not white in real life. What I meant is should I leave the white parts unpainted since its already white? I don't know how to explain what I mean.
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posted 02-07-2007 12:06 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's crystal clear what you mean. Not painting the white parts is trashing a lot of work you will invest in the model - it will look miserable - e.g. try it on an excess part of the casting mould - you will see what I mean.

Based on your posting I assume that you have not yet done such a kit - maybe you should get a smaller one to practice a bit. Many well built models are ruined due to a poor paint job - or to put it in another way: To build the model is easy, to paint it properly is a bit more difficult - THIS is what will define whether it is a nice or an ugly model.

P.S.: It can not be said often enough - you will hate the balconies. Consider yourself as warned.

[ 02-07-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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posted 02-07-2007 12:14 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would paint the hull, and superstructure etc. w/model spray paint. Paint all the parts you can w/spray paint as the finish is superior. Use thin even coats and do not apply to much paint! I choose flat paint because it looks more realistic (to me at least) and is much easier to touch up w/a brush should you need to do a repair job while building the model. Even though the real ships paint is a semi gloss to gloss finish (except the anti fouling paint on the under water portion of the hull) I still stick w/flat paint on the entire model. Also Blue Scotch Brand painters tape is excellent for masking portions where you need a fine line. Don't forget to give her a proper 'Cunard Red' funnel even though Cunard forgot to.
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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 02-07-2007 01:57 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
I am currently working on a revel 1:400 model of the QM2. Right now I am in the process of painting it. I was wondering should I paint the super structure? Or should I just leave it alone since it is already white?

I bought an old S.S. France model and was wondering the same thing. I searched for hours for a picture of one completed. But by all means paint the superstructure. It is going to look rather strange with paint on the bottom and plain plastic on top.


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posted 02-07-2007 02:33 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

The Debris Field has a lot of information for ocena liner modelers . The Website is here


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posted 02-07-2007 03:50 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

P.S.: It can not be said often enough - you will hate the balconies. Consider yourself as warned.

[ 02-07-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]


Thanks all for your advice. I am going to paint it. I just wanted to be sure.
Ernst I am not looking farward to that. I am alrady being driven crazy by the boot topping. The little stickers they give you to put on are really hard to use and the rip really easily, so I am having to paint it all by hand.


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Ernst
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posted 02-07-2007 04:00 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
....oh, you will hate these balconies....
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Cunard Fan
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posted 02-07-2007 04:08 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I compleatly belive you. I am already worried about doing them.
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dmwnc1
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posted 02-07-2007 07:32 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For me the balconies were a breeze, it took 3 days, but it was no real problem. I took some Pactra modelling stripping, white, and spray painted it deck-brown. Cut them down to the width size for that balconmy section and the self adhesive backing stuck to the model balcony flooring. It looks very professional and it a lot easier.
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posted 02-07-2007 07:43 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In addition to the above check out this thread on tips members offered on building that same model...

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=003114&p=

[ 02-07-2007: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]


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Magic Pipe
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posted 02-07-2007 07:53 PM      Profile for Magic Pipe     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

Thanks all for your advice. I am going to paint it. I just wanted to be sure.
Ernst I am not looking farward to that. I am alrady being driven crazy by the boot topping. The little stickers they give you to put on are really hard to use and the rip really easily, so I am having to paint it all by hand.


A relatively easy and very neat way to apply a boot topping stripe is to go to an auto parts store and buy pinstriping. It is very easy to apply, you can get it in almost any width, and until you press it on firmly you can peel it back off and re-apply it without removing the paint underneath.


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posted 02-12-2007 02:00 AM      Profile for elad   Email elad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i defenetley leave the white parts unpainted - i think its look better .
as for the black /red parts: i used maskentape of testors and it was pretty good.

Elad


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LeBarryboat
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posted 02-12-2007 10:50 AM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't spray on the paint right from the can...buy a more professional-type of spray-paint system (doesn't cost too much) The results are massively better and you can more evenly spray the paint on...and you can mix colors before you spray it on your model. Spraying right out of the can is so gritty and you can get drips and sections that might get too much paint.

Absolutely paint all the white parts too. You don't want ANY plastic visible. I like to use gloss for the superstructure and mat or flat paint for the black hull.


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Frosty 4
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posted 02-12-2007 04:56 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not sure if your kit has the plastic parts on a sprue(not sure on spelling ) but a sort of tree were parts have to be broken off. If so do your painting before assembly.Let dry throughly them remove them. Use tweezers when gluing. There are a lot of glues out there. The new super glues work well (CA) but be careful as not to glue you fingers together. They come in different thicknesses as well. There is a debonder available but it will melt plastic.It is good for glue removal on fingers if you do glue them together.
Frosty 4

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