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waterboy
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posted 02-22-2007 05:08 PM      Profile for waterboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am amazed at how a cruise ship can bunker ,unload and load pax, and stores in 12 hours. Does anyone know how long this took in the days of coal fired ships? Thanks.
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posted 02-22-2007 05:46 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy:
I am amazed at how a cruise ship can bunker ,unload and load pax, and stores in 12 hours. Does anyone know how long this took in the days of coal fired ships? Thanks.

It usually took a few days. Liners in New York and Southampton, for example, were in port anywhere from 2 to 5 days between crossings. Coal bunkering was a slow, messy process. Even with outer doors to open decks sealed shut, and clothes draped over furniture, the entire ship had to been wiped clean of coal dust which seeped in everywhere.

Other lengthy procedures were loading of provisions and baggage. In the old days, cargo and luggage were hoisted up in nets and on pallets by cranes and lowered onto decks or down into hatches. Nowadays huge shell doors in the hull allow forklifts to come and go from pierside with provisions and luggage.

Rich


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posted 02-22-2007 05:53 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

....Even with outer doors to open decks sealed shut, and clothes draped over furniture, the entire ship had to been wiped clean of coal dust which seeped in everywhere.


Rich



I never knew the dirt and such got inside the public areas. On large ships like Mauretania it must have taken forever to clean!


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posted 02-22-2007 08:32 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The t.s.s. Statendam of '29 took 6 days to turn around.
The t.s.s. Nieuw Amsterdam of '38 took 2 days to turn around.
The m.s. Rotterdam of '97 around 10 hrs to turn around (with the absent of cargo)

Greetings Ben.

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posted 02-22-2007 08:42 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A bit off topic - is Finnjet still holding the record with only 1.5 hours turn around time? (for ships doing overnight trips)

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posted 02-22-2007 10:40 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:


I never knew the dirt and such got inside the public areas. On large ships like Mauretania it must have taken forever to clean!


I have seen pics of either Mauretania or Lusitania w/tarps covering the sheltered promenade decks during coaling. I assume this was to keep some of the coal dust from covering the decks and seaping into the public rooms.


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posted 02-22-2007 11:03 PM      Profile for 6263866   Email 6263866   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Linnerrich, thats evry intresting, I haven't even thought about coaling as a factor, and coal dust.
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posted 02-22-2007 11:09 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

I have seen pics of either Mauretania or Lusitania w/tarps covering the sheltered promenade decks during coaling. I assume this was to keep some of the coal dust from covering the decks and seaping into the public rooms.


Is that what the tarps you see one the Titanic A deck prominade were for? I always figured they were just for shap or when the weather was bad.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 02-23-2007 12:18 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

Is that what the tarps you see one the Titanic A deck prominade were for? I always figured they were just for shap or when the weather was bad.


They could also be used to keep ocean spray off the covered decks at sea or for shade but the pics I have seen were taken when coaling.


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Linerrich
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posted 02-23-2007 07:26 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For the younger members on this forum (and anyone else for that matter) I highly recommend that you read John Maxtone-Graham's classic "The Only Way to Cross." He really paints an accurate picture of ocean liner life and operations during the early 20th Century.


Rich


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lasuvidaboy
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quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
For the younger members on this forum (and anyone else for that matter) I highly recommend that you read John Maxtone-Graham's classic "The Only Way to Cross." He really paints an accurate picture of ocean liner life and operations during the early 20th Century.


Rich



I still have my 1972 printing that I received as a child-back in 1973!. I don't know how many times I have read it but it is a wonderful book.


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posted 02-27-2007 10:53 AM      Profile for Colin   Email Colin   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a plaque somewhere on QE2 (used to be outside the theatre) that marks a record turnaround in NY.

After a late arrival, and the captain wanting to leave on time, they disembarked the passengers, restocked and embarked the new passengers in three hours and a bit (dont remember exactly).

Regards, Colin.


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quote:
Originally posted by Colin:
There's a plaque somewhere on QE2 (used to be outside the theatre) that marks a record turnaround in NY.

After a late arrival, and the captain wanting to leave on time, they disembarked the passengers, restocked and embarked the new passengers in three hours and a bit (dont remember exactly).

Regards, Colin.


On October 13, 1983 QE2 turned around in just under 4 hours. She didn't dock until about 5 pm and she sailed just before 9pm while I was still trying to get a cab at the MYPST.

Brian


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