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Frosty 4
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posted 04-28-2011 11:58 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What are your thoughts about all the bad things that have happened all over the Earth lately?
Earthquakes,floods, heavy snow storms and now all these tornadoes here in the US.
We don't hear too much about bad weather in other parts of the world unless its a big event.
Can anyone comment?
Is 12/21/12 really going to happen?
Frosty 4

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-28-2011 01:23 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
We don't hear too much about bad weather in other parts of the world unless its a big event.

That has more to do with the priorities of the US media than fact.


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Linerrich
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posted 04-28-2011 03:14 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There have always been earthquakes, floods, heavy snow storms, and tornadoes, since long before there were people crawling around on the earth. Our human history only goes back a few thousand years, and our recorded weather statistical history only about 100-150 years.

Supposedly there haven't been any more big earthquakes lately than normal (which is several hundred per year), it's just that there have been some big ones lately in populated areas like Chile, Haiti, and Japan, so we see the damage to humans. (Again, thank the media--Japan's 1923 earthquake was far worse, yet how many people even know about it, unless they study history.)

The heavy snow storms can be partly attributed to climate change, which means more precipitation in some areas--well in the winter, precipitation is snow! Some areas are going to be drier and hotter--here in South Florida we're going through the driest winter in over 80 years, and almost every day is near-record heat.

The recent spate of tornadoes across the US has been tragic, but we see tornadoes every Spring, when the cold and warm weather systems collide. Some year is bound to have more than past years, and this year seems to be it.

And yes, there will be a 12-21-12 -- I've seen next year's calendar, and it does not jump from Dec. 20 to Dec. 22. Re: the Mayan calendar thing, that simply refers to a new age, not necessarily the end of the world. (And now some people are saying we've mis-read or mis-understood that date, too!)

Rich

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Maasdam
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posted 04-28-2011 03:49 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't forget the rapid news share. It's not so long ago that news took several hours to several days to get around the world. But now we can read the latest news every second every day. Often with live coverage. Specially with social media as Twitter, You-Tube, Facebook etc.

Greetings Ben.
And that Mayan thing I don't think so


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posted 04-28-2011 04:11 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
Some areas are going to be drier and hotter--here in South Florida we're going through the driest winter in over 80 years, and almost every day is near-record heat.


Rich,
Lately I feel like I'm back living in LA. Day after day for months now of dry, hot weather with no end in sight. In LA I never gave it a second thought because that was normal weather. Here in Miami I'm not happy about it because I see so much of our beautiful greenery, palms, etc. turning brown. This is supposed to be the tropics and we should be getting much more rain. Meanwhile LA has had wet, cold weather all Winter and last Summer was pretty cold too. Strange.

Perhaps in a month or two I will take it all back if we end up getting a deluge of wet weather, but for now the rain would be very welcome.

Ernie


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-28-2011 09:12 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another fact is that millions of people live in areas were there are severe weather and natural disasters. 100-years ago many of these areas (such as CA and Florida) had few inhabitants and when a disaster struck, few people were there to report it. Today the 24/7 news cycle needs to be filled and a disaster can fill days of programming. 25-30 years ago, most Americans received their news from one of the three networks 22-minutes nightly news broadcasts.

As for the weather, the forecasters were completely off in regards to our 2010-11 winter weather. They all reported that we were going to have a warmer and drier winter than average. The exact opposite happened as we had a cool and very wet winter. Our weather is on a fairly normal cycle w/a cool summer coming every 5-6 years like last summer. I had a few very cool summers living in Santa Monica back in the early 1990s which turned me off of coastal living.

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eroller
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posted 04-28-2011 11:27 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I had a few very cool summers living in Santa Monica back in the early 1990s which turned me off of coastal living.



That is the amazing thing about LA weather, a few miles makes a huge difference. Most of the years I lived in LA was on the Westside, so I was used to the coastal weather and rarely needed air conditioning (maybe a week or two a year I would have liked it). My last residence in LA was a house in Glendale. It would be 95 degrees and we would decide to go to the beach. The beach was only a 30 minute drive and in those few miles it would get cloudy and the temperature would drop to 70 degrees. We would turn around and go home.

Very few places (especially big cities) have such temperature extremes in such a limited area.

Ernie


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-29-2011 12:12 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:

Very few places (especially big cities) have such temperature extremes in such a limited area.

Ernie


Very true. Some people think that L.A. is a desert but it is actually made up of several micro-climates. There is everything from cool streams running through dense wooded hills, to natural lakes in Pasadena w/lush 300-year-old Oak and Sycamore groves yet a few miles a way will be a dry-desert like landscape. Many newcomers don't know what is going on here but it is certainly unique.


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posted 04-29-2011 12:53 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Very true. Some people think that L.A. is a desert but it is actually made up of several micro-climates. There is everything from cool streams running through dense wooded hills, to natural lakes in Pasadena w/lush 300-year-old Oak and Sycamore groves yet a few miles a way will be a dry-desert like landscape. Many newcomers don't know what is going on here but it is certainly unique.



Exactly. My partner is from Calabasis and his father used to live off Kanan Road. Driving between Agoura and Malibu you would never guess you were in one of the largest metro areas in the world. I love those mountains. Even in Griffith Park just above the LA basin you feel as if you are in another world.

Miami can have a similar feeling in that if you just drive West a bit suddenly the city ends and the vast Everglades begins. It's an interesting transition. Also driving to Crandon Park on Key Biscayne you feel as if you are almost on a remote Caribbean island but you are just minutes from downtown Miami.

Ernie


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desirod7
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posted 04-29-2011 07:17 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe the worst volcanic eruption recorded was Krakatoa at the turn of the 20th century where the entire island disappeared and the noise from the explosion was heard 3000 miles away. 40,000 people were killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-29-2011 02:10 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Getting back to the weather, I heard on CNN that these were the worst tornados (in terms of death toll) since 1974. I wonder if similar weather patterns were occuring during that year.

Also heard on the news that the difference between now and the 1970s of course is modern Doppler Radar. Doppler radar apparently picks up every tornado in a specific location which means that tornados that were never counted (small and larger one alike) in the past are now being added to the seasonal totals. Interesting stuff!

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Cam J
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posted 04-29-2011 05:52 PM      Profile for Cam J   Email Cam J   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
What are your thoughts about all the bad things that have happened all over the Earth lately?
Earthquakes,floods, heavy snow storms and now all these tornadoes here in the US.
We don't hear too much about bad weather in other parts of the world unless its a big event.
Can anyone comment?
Is 12/21/12 really going to happen?
Frosty 4

Oh Frosty please don't tell me you beleive in that 2012 foolishness?!?!

As for today's world conditions, the bible actually fortold the world conditions of today and what they mean and how they will be resolved in the near future.

Cam J


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posted 04-29-2011 06:09 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Very true. Some people think that L.A. is a desert but it is actually made up of several micro-climates. There is everything from cool streams running through dense wooded hills, to natural lakes in Pasadena w/lush 300-year-old Oak and Sycamore groves yet a few miles a way will be a dry-desert like landscape. Many newcomers don't know what is going on here but it is certainly unique.


This is one of my favortie things about LA! Its a very unique place!!

I do have to ask though...what lakes are you talking about in Pasadena? I can only think of one, but its hidden in a rich neighborhood and most people in Pasadena don't even know its there. Of course there are also the flood basins at Eaton Canyon, JPL and at the top of Lake Ave, which people sometimes call lakes. And there are also a few rivers...well LA rivers that is.


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posted 04-29-2011 06:22 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:


Exactly. My partner is from Calabasis and his father used to live off Kanan Road. Driving between Agoura and Malibu you would never guess you were in one of the largest metro areas in the world. I love those mountains. Even in Griffith Park just above the LA basin you feel as if you are in another world.

Miami can have a similar feeling in that if you just drive West a bit suddenly the city ends and the vast Everglades begins. It's an interesting transition. Also driving to Crandon Park on Key Biscayne you feel as if you are almost on a remote Caribbean island but you are just minutes from downtown Miami.

Ernie


This is something that struck me when I drove with my family to places like Chicago or Dallas. It seems like the city just suddenly apears in the middle of farm land. Here in LA it seems like you can drive an hour in any direction and never once leave the cities! Between LA and San Diego there is only one break in the cities, Camp Pendleton.


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posted 04-30-2011 02:33 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:

This is something that struck me when I drove with my family to places like Chicago or Dallas. It seems like the city just suddenly apears in the middle of farm land. Here in LA it seems like you can drive an hour in any direction and never once leave the cities! Between LA and San Diego there is only one break in the cities, Camp Pendleton.



It can be that way in South Florida too. Just depends on which direction you are driving. From West Palm Beach all the way to South Miami (North to South) is pretty much one continuous stretch of urban sprawl, very similar to LA/Orange County. You drive though city after city but it pretty much all looks the same except perhaps for Downtown Miami which is even more built up (just like Downtown LA).

Ernie


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