I can live with HAL's no smoking in the dining room policy - it's getting to be the rule here in Toronto - even in private Clubs

BUT a 25% increase in the cost of drinks is something else again - Canadians will be particularly hard hit with the exchange rate - maybe Canadian Alumni will have something to say - I'll be one of the first in line with a letter of protest and you and I know who will be ahead of or right behind me.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Barryboat:
I for one am very happy with the no-smoking policy on it's sad how many millions of good people are in such bondage over this addiction.

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I agree 100%

Of less importance: Tobacco smoke more quickly wears out ship A/C, interiors, and fittings. Nothing more ugly than a cigarette burn on a seat, or someone clutzily burning you with their cigarette tip.

When the airlines banned all smoking the life of the aircraft interiors went from 2 years to 5 years.

I like sailing on HAL but there is always one negative. Tabacco smoke. When we boarded the Veendam on embarkation and started down the hallway to find our cabin, it stunk of cigarette smoke. Yet, the line tries to convince people that they clean the ship thoroughly. On another sailing, I was in a ping pong tournament, and guess what, my opponent was smoking a cigar. The only thing that could smell worse that would be raw sewage.

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Nice to meet someone with no vices, must be tough to live up to your standards tho'

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Gohaze, Hey I have a few vices, but they don't affect other people, just me. I drink too much diet Mountain Dew, and I have this passion for chocolate. Think about it....second-hand smoke is deadly to non-smokers...just as deadly to breath in second-hand smoke as it is to actually smoke. (choke, choke, choke, cough, cough, cough, stink, stink, stink)

Clean, pure air.....ahhhh there's nothing better.... no choking, coughing, stinkin, raunchy smoke breath, or that deep rustic smoker's voice.

Hmmmmm, lets see, vices:
I only cruise on what you call 'floating hazard' classic liners that you think should all be scrapped; further polluting the Indian Ocean, and killing a few workers.

Never pretended to be perfect. I am not.

I look at addictions whether drugs, sex, cruising as a public health problem instead of moral collapse.

To non-smokers tobacco stench is really disgusting.

Like Barryboat said, if a vice is not hurting anyone, big deal, if so it is a bigger deal.

On topic: NCL has smoking allowed on the starboard side of the ship, and non-smoking on the port side. Dining rooms are non-smoking.

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Originally posted by gohaze:
Desirod6.... Nice to meet someone with no vices, must be tough to live up to your standards tho'
...peter

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"On topic: NCL has smoking allowed on the starboard side of the ship, and non-smoking on the port side. Dining rooms are non-smoking........................"

So does HAL - most Lounges are also so designated. There are smoking and non-smoking tables in the dining room - in my smoking days we never sat at a smoking table for dinner - failed to understand how anyone could not get through a meal without lighting at least one cigarette and allowing it to smolder in an ashtray.

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Originally posted by Gayle:
[Q.B.] Great, now everybody can walk through a haze of smoke entering and leaving the dining room.[/QB]

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I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of soda pop and small bottles of water in the cabins,on the World Cruise last month.My list quoted: Water 75c,soda pop $1.50.
Considering I had been paying $1.70 for soda and $3.00 or $4.00 for water,depending on the size of bottle,on the MAASDAM at Christmas,I was more than happy.
Mind you,I didn't buy any extra water from any of the lounges for my shore trips so I cannot be sure that the price of water remained at 75 cents!

It will be interesting to see the price changes on the next World Cruise,what say,LizB???

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Originally posted by LizB:

I, personally, do not believe that this was necessary as the ventilation was very good in all areas, however, we always get people who think the extreme!!

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Originally posted by LizB:
I understand from reading the new Hawaii Brochure from HAL Oct. 2001-2002 that HAL is now imposing a new NON-SMOKING policy on their ships in all DINING AREAS.

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I assume that HAL have responded to customer feedback when introducing the 'No Smoking/Dining Room' rule? Most other cruise lines do not permit smoking in the dining rooms either. Smoking while eating has become socially un-acceptable, and HAL are simply reflecting this.

Imagine that policy on a cruise ship, it would sail empty!

People who drink alcohol cause most traffic highway deaths so all alcohol should be forbidden

Drink-drvining is illegal, had you not heard? Anyway, most road accidents are in fact caused by sober drivers! However, I see you point.