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There are no problems in Europe, as such. I'm not aware any ports are shut? Security will just be a little tighter.
I'd personally feel a little safer in The Med than in New York at present! Go for it...escape from all this sadness for a little while!
In 2002, RCI is already pulling some of its Eastern Med cruises.
I disagree with the NYC comment. Crime has dropped dramatically. NYC is probably the safest place to be.
If you are not in the penalty phase before the cruise, I would think hard.
I am keeping my own cruise in November, but if we had a cruise to the eastern Med, we would have cancelled even if it were fully paid.
Fondaenergy, this is Europe not the Middle East. Europe has always had more stringent security checks than those in the US too. You are no more likely to come to any harm than cruising the Carribbean, and the Med is far more enjoyable IMHO.
Go TeeGee, and have a great Honeymoon, then come back and tell us all about it
Pam
quote:Originally posted by fondaenergy:I disagree with the NYC comment. Crime has dropped dramatically. NYC is probably the safest place to be.
I did not mean 'general' crime, I was talking about Terrorism! It is clear from the NY tragedy that in the modern world no one is 100% safe, anywhere!
You could be victim of a terrorist attack in any part of the world - on the street, in your car, on a train or on a ship. However, it is still very unlikely.
The Medditeraian is NOT the Middle East!
Don't let the terrorists win by spreading fear. Carry on life as normal! Why cancel a cruise to a 'stable' and very attractive part of the world through unfounded fear? That would be a great shame.
The ports mentioned are not without risk.
He asked for an opinon, and I gave mine. This is a forum where all opinions are welcome. Watch the tone when you don't agree.
The American perspective on its attacks is different from Europeans. We are being instructed every day to avoid some foreign place because Americans are likely targets. If you look at the Internet, it would appear that even stringent searchs do not catch all the bad guys.
We are having nightly alerts about people running around here and evidence of other terrorist plots. Our attorney general is telling us that we should be on high alert.
Americans are understandably edgy.
Any cruiser needs to consider the current situation as well as possible military action.
If people think these things through and still want to go, more power to them.
There are Americans who are canceling their Med. cruises, regardless of how you categorize the Med.
We just cannot presume things are safe.
No one knows any of the answers for sure. I was hoping on getting feedback from people have travelled this route from 9/13 to present to get a feel for the emotional climate amongst passengers and locals in each port. Still
Fact: The SS Norway arrived in Le havre (France) 7 days after the tragedy. The ship's passengers were mainly American (except me). The local French people were full of sympathy and kindness for the American people. We saw lots of floral tributes to the people of NY.
Much of Europe likes American's, and the cities and ports rely on them for tourism. Culturally much of Europe has more in common with the USA, that they do with the 'Middle East', and have in fact embraced American culture: McDonalds, Hollywood Movies, American Clothing and sport etc.
Few people of any race, could fail to be moved and feel sympathy, by the recent tragedy - apart from some non-European fanatics!
The recent tragedy proved that no one is safe anywhere, even in the financial capital of the worlds foremost superpower! Nowhere is immune to modern terrorism or modern warfare, for that matter. To think that you are somehow safer in America, but not in Europe, is a mistake in my opinion.
It would really be a tragedy to miss your cruise, but my opinion holds no more weight that anyone else.
quote:Originally posted by billee:Go, go, go. Don't let the terrorists win. I'm getting ready to sail on the Olympic Voyager on 10/13/01. Going to Egypt, Turkey & Greece and looking foward to it.
Billee, please report back to us on your return, I'm sure that you will be able to put some minds at rest. I'm sure that you will enjoy!
"U.S. intelligence officials have toldmembers of Congress there is ahigh probability that terroristsassociated with Osama bin Ladenwill try to launch another majorattack on American targets here orabroad in the near future.
Based on what officials describedas credible new information, theFBI and the CIA have assessed thechances of a second attempt toattack the United States as veryhigh, sources said yesterday.
At a briefing Tuesday (October 2, 2001), in response to a senator's question about thegravity of the threat, one intelligenceofficial said there is a "100 percent"chance of an attack should the United States strike Afghanistan, according to sources familiar with the briefing."
quote:Originally posted by colt:"U.S. intelligence officials have told members of Congress there is ahigh probability that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden will try to launch another major attack on American targets here orabroad in the near future.
In all due respect Colt, it is possible to read just about every Scenario in the papers at present, from biological warfare to nuclear attack!
In my experience terrorists tend to lay low when the 'heat is on'. They do not want their missions foiled by high security. They can lay dormant for years and just when we all get complacent again and no longer expect it...they strike.
KPS, it's a pity that you felt you had to cancel, but you must go with your instincts. I was not aware that there were any particular political problems in Italy for Americans? (Italy is a very long way indeed from Afghanistan!)
I think we should all take to the sea, it seems safer than being on dry land at present!
I do not personally believe that there is any additional risk to American's visiting Italy and the popular Mediterranean ports of call. However, it would be nice to hear it from someone who has just returned to confirm this?
Anyone?
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm:In all due respect Colt, it is possible to read just about every Scenario in the papers at present, from biological warfare to nuclear attack! In my experience terrorists tend to lay low when the 'heat is on'. They do not want their missions foiled by high security. They can lay dormant for years and just when we all get complacent again and no longer expect it...they strike.
I absolutely agree.
It's because such statements are appearing in the media on a daily basis, and the fact that our "intelligence" services seemed to have been caught napping on 911, that, i believe, Americans are very on edge, apprehensive and reactive to things that would have minimal impact on our personal radar screens prior to Sept 11.
The Turkish were outstandably humble and progressive and gave us the royal treatment. They invited us for tea and discussed the differences between Democratic Muslims and Muslim fundamentalist.The only warnings we were given were not to bring undue attention to the fact we were travelling Americas (ie: I took off my memorial American pin)The people on the ship (with the exception of the rude pushy Germans) were extremely warm and supportive. We all shared a feeling of sadness but determination to not allow the terrorists to errode democracy and our freedom.The airports were very secure with plenty of surprise baggage checks, pat downs, hi sensitivity metal detectors.All in all we did not feel that we were in harms way at anytime during the trip. Good luck to all that plan to travel. It is completely a personal decision to travel. I can only share my personal experience and it was AWESOME!Thanks for all your advice.
quote:Originally posted by teegee:I can only share my personal experience and it was AWESOME!Thanks for all your advice.
I'm so glad you decided to go and had such a wonderful time ) Thanks for letting us know how it all went. Any online photos?
quote:Originally posted by teegee:We are heading out for our honeymoon on Costa Cruises to Italy, Greece, Turkey and Croatia. We are in angst as to whether we should reschedule, cancel or just go.
Originally posted by teegee:The people on the ship...were extremely warm and supportive. We all shared a feeling of sadness but determination to not allow the terrorists to errode democracy and our freedom. I can only share my personal experience and it was AWESOME![/QUOTE]
There you go, and the great global 'media machine' almost took over your mind and ruined it all for you!
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