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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 01-21-2002 05:42 AM

I recently found some drawings in an abandoned linen mill near me. While looking through them in more detail I spotted a blueprint design that was for a tower on board a liner. It says "Royal Mail Line" and the motto "Per Mare Libique" between two seahorses!!! Above these sea horses is a ship with sails and also this is depicted in between the seahorses on a shield with a cross and a crown on it. There is some red writing also on this sheet (obviously corretions to be done) one of them says "Kindly do not exceed the size of this circle and bring huck close up to the circle as in CUNARD TOWEL" This is where I thought it got interesting!!! Any help with what line this was for?? The date it could have been produced and who would be in charge of its design???????
Oh I just noticed this while TRYING to researchFlag on clock :Look at the flag in the clock-that it the crown and cross I am on aboutNow you all have something to go by!! Please help me I could be sitting on a fortune hehehehe and also I would roughly date the paper quality to be that of around late 1890's-1920's.

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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 01-25-2002 04:19 AM

Booooooooooo Hooooooo no one helped me with this one guess I'll have to try and research it myself!! MMMM did I mention the share of the fortune to the person who could help lead me to a match??? Oh Well

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 01-25-2002 05:16 AM

Steve, I have spent many hours searching the web for something but found nothing

Can you scan the logo so we can see the ship it depicts? Or do you know the name of the mill?
Pam

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mariner
First Class Passenger
Member # 2725

posted 01-26-2002 09:57 PM

Steve,
I'm stumped. But you might want to search the Web for the Ocean Liner Museum in NYC. I'm not sure if they take e-mail. But you could write them and their members might have an answer.

Good luck.

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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 01-27-2002 02:40 PM

Thanks guys and gals! Pam the mill was called CALLAN VALLEY MILLS, MILFORD ARMAGH. One of the biggest mills in the country shame they closed it and knocked it down! All the stuff was still in it, looms, papers, keys, presses, cloths, cards........

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Katie O'Girl
First Class Passenger
Member # 2704

posted 02-03-2002 11:07 AM

I wondered if you found out anything else about this? I was a little confused. Did you want to find the SHIP or info about the lines?
One thing I DO know is that the OLD Ulster flag looked like this. (Not now with the Yellow background and the red hand.) But with the Cross of St Patrick (which in the old days it meant NOTHING political like it does now.) And if we could see the crown better we could tell closer what year it's from as the older Royal Mail Line ships used the State crown for Queen Victoria (1837) which was kind of flat-looking until around 1902 when they started replacing it with the Imperial or St Edwards crown on the ships flag with St Patricks Cross.
Did you find out anything else? On the Royal Mail Lines site there is a place where you can get in touch with relatives of men who served on those ships, I think.

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Katie O'Girl
First Class Passenger
Member # 2704

posted 02-03-2002 11:15 AM

http://www.users.on.net/snicol/home/
Hope this link works. This is an example......
The flag on this site is a Royal Mail Lines flag from AFTER 1902

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-03-2002 12:35 PM

That's a really nice site. Quite a few pics of ships there Steve, maybe one matches your logo?

Pam

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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 02-03-2002 01:46 PM

THATS IT!!!!! The crown in the middle of that flag on the homepage is the one in my drawing! Brilliant work detectives! Now what does this mean and how old would my drawing be? Is is possile to track down its ship? I was particularry impressed by The Georgian-style first class Social Hall in Asturias (II), perhaps the finest of all the breathtaking rooms in this ship.

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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 02-03-2002 01:51 PM

Oh just discovered this Katie and Pam! If this is any use to you click here and look at the crest at the tope of the page! That is what in on my sheet within a circle and Royal Mail Line written in it! I think we are getting somewhere......

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Green
First Class Passenger
Member # 171

posted 02-03-2002 03:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Katie O'Girl:
http://www.users.on.net/snicol/home/
Hope this link works. This is an example......
The flag on this site is a Royal Mail Lines flag from AFTER 1902

Thanks Katie - just spent a pleasant hour, on a very chilly Sunday, browsing.

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