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DAMBROSI
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posted 05-24-2002 10:21 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We've only flown to 2 cruises. Both before 9/11/01
We basically drive to them or some of the cruise lines
provide bus service. Sometimes it's free, sometimes you pay for the round trip by bus. Anything
is better than flying. FAA
continues to drag it's wings on the ground. So no flying
for us.

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cruiseny
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posted 05-24-2002 11:16 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

Flown to all but one cruise, including one after 9/11. I have no qualms with flying.

We usually book transfers through the cruise line, and the airfare on our own. You tell the cruise line what flight you're on and they pick you up.

This is cheaper and better than an air deviation.

I've heard that at some ports transfers aren't available. Don't know what I'd do there.

There aren't that many destinations accessible from New York. Bermuda and Canada/New England. If we just want to go someplace, and aren't really interested in destination, flying to FL and hopping on a ship there is far cheaper and not much more difficult. If we are cruising based on destination, chances are you can't get there from NY.

Canada/New England would be nice but the prices are soooo high now on the nicer ships. So we just drive there instead.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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trailhiker
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posted 05-24-2002 02:09 PM      Profile for trailhiker   Email trailhiker   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We fly from lovely Logan in Boston, once since 9/11. It was a nightmare but that is to be expected. Since we live in northern NH in the future, after this October, we will most likely fly from Manchester, NH. People are telling us it is much nicer and is suppose to be one of the safest airports around. I don't mind flying and neither does my husband. We are together and we both feel it is still the safest way to travel although certainly not up to the standards we deserve to have. Along with the Immigration and Naturalization services, the airlines have let the people of this country down.
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gizmo
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posted 05-24-2002 03:52 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We always fly using Delta since we are in Atlanta. Most of the time Amex points are transferred to Delta FF for the tickets.
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gohaze
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posted 05-24-2002 05:08 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Usually our's are long-hauls to someplace around the world, and being open-jaw too we take the cruiseline air... it's cheaper and points are a waste of time as they're only good for returns.
Next trip however will be a lot different.. just a wheelchair taxi to Canada Place, drive on board and the reverse when we get back.
...peter

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cruiseny
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posted 05-25-2002 09:35 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
Next trip however will be a lot different.. just a wheelchair taxi to Canada Place, drive on board and the reverse when we get back.
...peter

Where? When? On what?

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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gohaze
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posted 05-25-2002 09:48 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In two weeks time. Sea Princess, Alaska 7 day return. Been there lots of times including the Bering Sea and along the North Slope so this is a trial trip for the scooter and a handicapped cabin etc. On how it goes depends the next expedition.
Oh yes. It was 20 years ago we did our first of several on the original Sea Princess
...peter

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cruiseny
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posted 05-25-2002 02:33 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
In two weeks time. Sea Princess, Alaska 7 day return. Been there lots of times including the Bering Sea and along the North Slope so this is a trial trip for the scooter and a handicapped cabin etc. On how it goes depends the next expedition.
Oh yes. It was 20 years ago we did our first of several on the original Sea Princess
...peter

[ 05-25-2002: Message edited by: gohaze ]


Well, I hope you have a good time, and that all works well with your scooter and handicapped cabin. I didn't realize that you haven't been on a cruise as a physically-challenged person before. It must be quite something to adjust to.

I guess for you, this is like a day-trip . Should be fun anyway. Hope all goes well so that you can resume your long expeditions!

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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CTrail
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posted 05-26-2002 04:37 PM      Profile for CTrail     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fly out of Toronto International in our case to Miami.

Cruisinisgreat!!

Peter


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PamM
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posted 05-26-2002 04:53 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Drive to Southampton or Dover. But have broken my rule of not flying when cruising, for the next one, by flying to Orlando, but still driving to Miami So only half broken. Will be one the only one of its kind though.

Pam


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Grant
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posted 05-26-2002 10:13 PM      Profile for Grant   Email Grant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Peter: I just bet that you will like the previous Sea Princess better than the current. Not knocking the new ship, but just loved all the tradional aspects of Kungsholm. Just as aside, I was working in Campbell River for several days last week, and saw many many cruise ships pass by every evening; so close that you could hear announcements from the hotel. Most of the southbounds passed through the narrow between 9-10pm, but Volendam and Norwegian Wind passed by at 6pm one evening. The northbounds all paraded past between 9-11pm. Once, there were 3 heading south and 2 north all in view at one time. What a sight! Bon voyage.
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Grant
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posted 05-26-2002 10:18 PM      Profile for Grant   Email Grant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Green: I love the frequent flyer programs, and have been very successfully using them for years. In fact, I have travelled to Puerto Rico and London each once on points, and to Florida every year for the last 10, ALL FOR FREE as the trips were on Aeroplan points. Already put aside are points for another 5 years of Florida trips, or perhaps a trip to somewhere exotic to join ship. Having points available sure make cruising more affordable.
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gohaze
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posted 05-26-2002 10:44 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Grant...we did the first repo the Sun did from FLL to Vanc. Not bad, although the service in the Diningroom was poor - not as bad as the Vistafjord tho'.
We liked the Sea Princess, nice to have curry tiffin for a change.
...peter

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cruiseny
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posted 05-27-2002 01:09 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Drive to Southampton or Dover. But have broken my rule of not flying when cruising, for the next one, by flying to Orlando, but still driving to Miami So only half broken. Will be one the only one of its kind though.

Pam


Out of curiosity, why are you flying to Orlando? I would never myself reccommend that anyone fly into Miami, which is one of the worst airports I have ever had the displeasure of encountering, but Orlando is quite far from Miami.

Personally, I like PBI (West Palm Beach) for South Florida myself. Guess no UK flights there, though...

When on a cruise, I do sometimes use FLL (Ft. Lauderdale) or even, in a pinch, Miami.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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Green
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posted 05-27-2002 05:50 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Grant:
Green: I love the frequent flyer programs, and have been very successfully using them for years. In fact, I have travelled to Puerto Rico and London each once on points, and to Florida every year for the last 10, ALL FOR FREE as the trips were on Aeroplan points. Already put aside are points for another 5 years of Florida trips, or perhaps a trip to somewhere exotic to join ship. Having points available sure make cruising more affordable.

You're probably a business traveller.......racking up points is easy.

It's different for those of us who have to pay the fare to earn the points. Even when you have them, there's that little matter of 'point space' being available. I like them too and have saved money on several long hauls.

Just hope your 'stash' is still valid for your Florida flights 5 years hence!!


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cruiseny
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posted 05-28-2002 09:11 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

I find FFPs confusing myself... Somehow there is always some loophole for the airline to deny rewards - bad date, not enough designated space, etc.

Also, airfares here out of NY to Florida have gotten so cheap, that the car service fare from my house to the airport sometimes costs more than the flight!

Delta is usually ridiculously cheap to Florida, even on peak dates. $200 round trip, maybe, in peak season.

If you go any old time, you can get $125, roundtrip from NY to FLL (Ft. Lauderdale)!

The only thing I would ever like for an FFP would be to upgrade, on a longhaul flight. But now, with the advent of "economy premium" cabins on those flights, it's all geting blurred.

Who knows, I've been trying to figure out the airline industry for years, and haven't been very successful ...

They're always coming up with new tricks! I just get the cheapest fare for a decent schedule and airline, and that's it - no fuss about FFPs or whatever.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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sympatico
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posted 05-28-2002 01:00 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just tried to book a flight from Toronto to Vancouver using my FFPoints and booking Business Class. There was absolutely nothing left for the end of July except if I wanted to take 2 days going and coming - I don't mean leave 2 days earlier - I mean the flight would have taken 2 days, overnighting in 2 different cities. Guess, what I'm not going to Alaska!

Fortunately I was able to use my points for my November cruise, but of course, Xmas is blacked out. So there I sit with over 150,000 points and no where to go.
I find it impossible to use the points unless I book at least a year ahead - can't use them for last minute deals.


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PamM
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posted 05-28-2002 03:12 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cruiseny:

Out of curiosity, why are you flying to Orlando?


'cos we have a week to potter around in first. Not flying all that way purely for 7 days on a ship
Pam

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cruiseny
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posted 05-28-2002 06:18 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
'cos we have a week to potter around in first. Not flying all that way purely for 7 days on a ship
Pam

Aha, now I see . I'd fly all the way to the UK for 7 days on a ship though!

This I assume is your Norwegian Star cruise? It should be an interesting trip, for a Fred. Olsen fan on NCL what with Freestyle etc.

I will be very interested in your opinion on just how all that Freestyle works - it is alien to me.

Alien is also what you will be called all the time on your cruise - or have you been on a US-based ship before? I'm not one, but I feel sorry for all those alien friends I meet on my cruises...

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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posted 05-29-2002 08:41 AM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
gohaze:

I too am going to be doing just that for the first time ever. Driving from my place to Canada Place, cruise, and then come home.

After 35 or so cruises, this will be the first where I will not have the hassle of flying, waking up way to early etc. I am quite excited - I only wish I could cruise this way all the time! But then, just how many times can one keep going to Alaska!

It just sounds sooooooooo civilized and relaxing though - exactly how a cruise should begin!


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sympatico
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posted 05-29-2002 08:55 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jekyll and Gohaze - you don't know how much I envy the two of you. No matter where we want to cruise to, we have to fly. Of course, some people do drive to NY or Boston to board the ship, and that is fine in the summer time, but come winter, forget it. And it's a little too far to drive to Vancouver.
Too bad the larger cruise ships can't come down the St. Lawrence into Toronto.

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Green
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posted 05-29-2002 10:43 AM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
sympatico: Toronto would be wonderful but I'd happily settle for Montreal!
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cruiseny
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posted 05-29-2002 11:30 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

From the point of view of not flying to cruise, I think Vancouver must be one of the best places to live.

That's primarily because the cruises from Vancouver are now pretty cheap.

Those from New York are so expensive that we don't take them. Mostly because of under-capacity.

Those from Vancouver, have over-capacity.

By the way, even if you don't live there, Vancouver must be one of the nicest places to start a cruise. Canada Place is very nice, and the airport is very good. The nicest one in Canada, I think, at least until renovations at Pearson and Dorval are complete.

I would say that NY, from the point of view of someone flying in, must be one of the worst places. Our airports must be awfully intimidating to an out-of-towner (to many NYers too!), our cruise terminals are equally dumpy, and the ride in between must be hell.

Of course, I've never had to do it !

There are lots of (to me) interesting itineraries from the UK. But they are expensive, for British, even if you drive to cruise.

However, destinations are more interesting than Bermuda. I like Alaska very much though.

So I guess Vancouverites have it best from this point of view.

Oops, almost forgot Floridians. Very cheap, lots of variety, but boooring (yawn) destinations. And lots and lots of big-box megaliners that all look and feel identical.

Happy Cruising,
CruiseNY


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gohaze
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posted 05-29-2002 12:06 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi NY...you've touched on a few things of interest here. YVR has actually been voted the best airport in North America and they're still working on it. For all those American visitors using it for cruises this summer, the departure tax you pay is wholly committed to improvements. YVR is a locally operated Authority, non profit at that, except that Ottawa takes out hundreds of Mils in so called rent. Non of the other airports in Canada pay that.
And good flights to the Far East, Europe and SE Asia/ Australasia.

The new third berth at Canada Place is now open a year ahead of schedule and big changes have been made inside the terminal.

Some of the best deals are at the beginning and end of the season when the repos head for Alaska and down South for the Carib. Same in reverse and then even from the Far East. We did one of those on the Sky Princess from Japan, Korea, Vladivostok, then North of the Aleutians (that was the old Empress route) to Dutch Harbour.

I remember JFK, Royal Cruise, of fond memory, used to have someone meet their pax and make sure they made their connections. We did YVR - JFK and then to JNL on South African non-stop..at that time the longest in the world. Then the Blue Train to Cape Town to join the Star Odyssey. Great trip.
...peter


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