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jadranjohn
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posted 02-14-2005 12:13 PM      Profile for jadranjohn   Email jadranjohn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just spent week on Carribean Princess.
Food is just OK. Buffet food is most times better than Dining Lounge. Service is excellent. Entertainment in Princess theater is horrendoous (not professional at all). Coffee is a liquid type instant dispensed by a machine, the capochino is make with beans though but this steamed milk is also a liquid substance dipensed by machine.
We only saw 2 of the 3 stops. The last stop was to be Princess cays in the Bahamas but weather was too rough (I have been tendered in worse) so we only saw 2 islands (in 7 days!!!). This happened twice in the last 3 cruises!!!
Cash cow is what I think of this cruise.

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Noordam
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posted 02-14-2005 12:53 PM      Profile for Noordam   Email Noordam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds like a great cruise... Glad you enjoyed yourself!
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 02-14-2005 01:57 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least the 'capochino' was flowing freely. The cruise sounds horrific, I would have demanded a full refund.
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Noordam
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posted 02-14-2005 03:10 PM      Profile for Noordam   Email Noordam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The thing I love about first time posters, is that they always seem to hate their cruise experience!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 02-14-2005 05:16 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jadranjohn:
This happened twice in the last 3 cruises!!!

Sorry that you had a bad experience again! However, you cannot blame Princess for the Sea conditions.

What's the betting that you have now cruise three times with Princess?


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jadranjohn
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posted 02-14-2005 09:07 PM      Profile for jadranjohn   Email jadranjohn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes we first timers probably do complain about their cruise. We are voicing our opinion about something to let others know whats up with with a specific cruise. Food and entertainment are the most important aspects of a cruise, the Carribean Princess did not live up to general good quality standards. Watching the cruise director show his ass (literally) in the Princess theater is not my idea of quality.
p.s. You guys are sort of funny.
Ever sort of work on a cruise ship.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 02-14-2005 10:11 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jadranjohn:
Yes we first timers probably do complain about their cruise. We are voicing our opinion about something to let others know whats up with with a specific cruise. Food and entertainment are the most important aspects of a cruise, the Carribean Princess did not live up to general good quality standards. Watching the cruise director show his ass (literally) in the Princess theater is not my idea of quality.
p.s. You guys are sort of funny.
Ever sort of work on a cruise ship.

Most of us DO NOT work and never have worked on a cruise ship. We all seem to enjoy cruising and realize that at times things can go wrong-as during any travel expierence. With the mega ships of today it can be difficult to provide a perfect vacation but the trade offs are low fares, good and sometimes great food, excellent service and generally a great vacation value.


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jadranjohn
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posted 02-15-2005 07:49 AM      Profile for jadranjohn   Email jadranjohn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
lasuvidaboy You are right!
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jadranjohn
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posted 02-15-2005 07:51 AM      Profile for jadranjohn   Email jadranjohn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess I need to spend more to get more. Next time I will try Celebrity.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 02-15-2005 08:00 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jadranjohn:
Yes we first timers probably do complain about their cruise.

In fact we get lots of 'first timers' who are over the moon. It's all very subjective - it does depend on your level of expectations. Sorry to state the obvious, but different cruise lines offer different cruise products at different prices. Maybe Princess is just not for you?

Taks a look at outr 'Readers Reviews' menu left.


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Ernst
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posted 02-15-2005 08:42 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jadranjohn:
Yes we first timers probably do complain about their cruise. We are voicing our opinion about something to let others know whats up with with a specific cruise. Food and entertainment are the most important aspects of a cruise, the Carribean Princess did not live up to general good quality standards. Watching the cruise director show his ass (literally) in the Princess theater is not my idea of quality.
p.s. You guys are sort of funny.
Ever sort of work on a cruise ship.

I actually started to complain a long time after my frist cruise. Back them, in the good old times, everything was perfect.


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Noordam
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posted 02-15-2005 11:18 AM      Profile for Noordam   Email Noordam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have been a cruiser all of my life, and I have actually worked on a cruise ship. What I have found is that complaining is part of the cruise experience, which I suppose is human. But, when people get home and spend time pondering their experience, they actually change their opinion and start planning the next cruise....
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Tom Burke
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posted 02-15-2005 11:44 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Food and entertainment are the most important aspects of a cruise

Interesting. I'm yet to go on my first cruise - it's booked (as I'm sure everybody knows by now) for late May in the W Med - but for me food was the third-most important ingredient and entertainment was nowhere. My priorities were a) the ports of call; b) the overall 'cruise experience' - the ship, the company's style, etc; c) the food; d) the cabin; e) everything else!

Oh, and price is in there somewhere, of course, but I suppose the aspects above are after you've decided to spend a lot of cash on the cruise.


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jadranjohn
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posted 02-15-2005 12:01 PM      Profile for jadranjohn   Email jadranjohn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When you cruise the Med the ship is just a moving hotel. I agree that in the Med it is the stops that are the most interesting. You will enjoy it. But when you cruise the Carribean its the ship and sun. All islands are basically the same, beaches and someone trying to sell you something!! I am planning my next cruise next year for my 25th anniversary this one will be in the E. Med.
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Ernst
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posted 02-15-2005 12:12 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:

Interesting. I'm yet to go on my first cruise - it's booked (as I'm sure everybody knows by now) for late May in the W Med - but for me food was the third-most important ingredient and entertainment was nowhere. My priorities were a) the ports of call; b) the overall 'cruise experience' - the ship, the company's style, etc; c) the food; d) the cabin; e) everything else!

Oh, and price is in there somewhere, of course, but I suppose the aspects above are after you've decided to spend a lot of cash on the cruise.


I remeber the time, when food (especially the quantity) was very important. But today standards ashore are so high, it is nearly impossible for a ship to compete. (inherently limited access to fresh ingredients; "big" restaurants, even on "yacht-like" ships) But as superbe food still is a cruise "cliche" for some people, it is clear why they are dissapointed, even when they get acceptable quality.

P.S.: Also, cruising became very "cheap" during the last years. Some are obviously surprised that their 500$/week cruise is not a five-star expierience. This is, beside other things which shy some people away (not erveryone enjoys wearing a tuxedo), why I think it will be very important for this industry to come up with some new ideas. (e.g.: easycruise)


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 02-15-2005 05:21 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
...but for me food was the third-most important ingredient and entertainment was nowhere.

I take your point - you are viewing a cruise as a way to see places. I first did this at first. However, I now also consider the onboard experience, too.

I think when you are captive onboard a ship, as you are each evening and during any sea days, the food takes on a special importance. After all just about all cruise brochures boasts about the food - even on budget cruise lines.

Now I'm not really a food 'buff', but the evening meal is one of the highlights of the day, for me. It's not just the food, it is the overall experience. The entertainment after the meal can also be a high-light, if its good!

As European cruises are expensive, at £100 plus, per day, I expect some good food and entertainment for my money.


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mrblanche
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posted 02-20-2005 10:01 AM      Profile for mrblanche   Email mrblanche   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jadranjohn:
I guess I need to spend more to get more. Next time I will try Celebrity.

I'm not sure that's the real solution. I wasn't impressed with Celebrity, personally. Maybe they were just going through a "rough spot" in their history, but I found the food unispired, the entertainment run-of-the-mill, and staff consistently mishandled by their supervisors.

But reading a few reviews before you book a cruise would certainly help. For example, if you read around, you'll find the Grand Princess out of Galveston is consistently arriving too late for shore excursions in Belize right now. Or you would discover that the Norwegian Sea often can't stop in Cancun due to rough seas and a shallow harbor. These are things that you CAN prepare yourself for.

Mike


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Weaver
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posted 02-21-2005 12:14 PM      Profile for Weaver   Email Weaver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the person from Ontario must take his cappachino very seriously. Some things are best enjoyed in a labor intensive environment all done by hand. Please remember they are making hundreds of them a day. I feel your pain. Myself made the same lament about sushi making on the Monarch of the Seas where it was mass produced prior and served on a plastic (ahhh!!) little dish. Maybe a more high end ship like Seaburn might make your stuff (and my sushi) all by hand. Just make sure the martinis are made by hand, by god.
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posted 02-21-2005 01:43 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow...what a diverse thread with lots of interesting points.

In terms of tendering in "rough" water vs canceling the call, I wonder if lines are more cautious these days out of fear of gettig sued. You know....a couple people break their ankles or hips getting in the boat in chopy water and all of a sudden the company is negligent.

I'm a bit dismayed at comments that all the Caribbean islands are the same. Yes, today the islands are about swimming sunning and shopping. Yes, many of them were sugar colonies with slaves, yadda yadda, but there is rich history there that goes back to when the USA were still English colonies. As James Michener illustrates, in his historical novel "Caribbean", major events in European history of the 15th - 19th centuries (that's 400 years!) had direct influence in the islands....whether it's the Cromwell revolution in England & beheading of Charles I, French Revolution, etc.


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