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eroller
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posted 10-19-2006 10:16 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great news! This really came out of nowhere and I suppose validates Carnival's commitment to the brand. I truly thought Carnival had plans to sell off Seabourn by now, and maybe they did? Perhaps there were no interested buyers so Carnival decided to bite the bullet and expand. This news has been long overdue for Seabourn and I imagine it's not good news for Silversea, who has expansion plans of their own.

Ernie

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Seabourn Cruise Line Orders Two New Ultra Luxury Ships

To Be Built at Mariotti Shipyard, Genoa, At an All-In Cost of Approximately 250 Million Dollars Each

MIAMI, Oct. 19
Seabourn Cruise Line announced today that it will build two new, ultra luxury ships, for delivery in spring 2009 and 2010. Seabourn, a division of Miami-based Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE/LSE:
CCL)(NYSE: CUK - News), has signed a letter of intent for the project with shipbuilder T. Mariotti S.p.A. of Genoa, Italy. The sister ships
will have an all-in U.S. dollar cost of $250 million each.

Each of the 32,000-GRT ships will accommodate all guests in 225 luxury suites, ninety percent of which will offer private verandas. Combined,
the two vessels will more than double Seabourn's current fleet capacity of 634 berths.

"Our brand has been experiencing more demand in the marketplace than we could fulfill for quite some time now," stated Deborah L. Natansohn, president of Seabourn. "The new ships will allow us to
bring the unique Seabourn experience to a larger number of people, particularly the highly affluent and active baby boomer generation just now heading towards the more leisurely years of their lives."

The letter of intent to build the ships is subject to a number of conditions including definitive contracts, financing and other terms.

According to Micky Arison, Chairman and CEO of Carnival Corporation & plc, "This order represents our confidence in the luxury segment of
the cruising market, which has shown significant and consistent revenue growth in recent years, with robust future potential. Through our own and independent research, we know that the luxury consumer views the Seabourn brand as the absolute ultimate in leisure travel. This new generation of yacht-like ships will secure its position at the top of the cruise industry pyramid for many years to come."

The vessels have been specifically designed to enable Seabourn's award- winning staff to deliver the highly personalized service experience that is a hallmark of the brand. "They will be spacious,
with the sleek lines and relaxed, personal feel of an oversized yacht," Natansohn said. "We've essentially taken the signature elements of our existing yachts and added some exciting new features that the larger hulls will allow."

Marco Bisagno, President of T. Mariotti S.p.A. noted, "When they were introduced, the three existing Seabourn ships embodied a new class of
cruising vessel, and they spawned an entirely new niche in the market. We are proud and excited that Seabourn has enlisted Mariotti to craft what will be the next generation of intimate, ultra luxury cruising
vessels, to be built in Genoa by our skilled team."

With this order, Mariotti confirms its leadership in the small/medium size ultra luxury ships market.

The design specifications call for hulls 650 feet long, with a beam of 84 feet and a draft of 21 feet. The ships will be powered by diesel-generated electricity and operate with twin screw propellers,
with a service speed of 19 knots. They will be equipped with two bow thrusters to enhance maneuverability and two stabilizers. The ships
will also be "green ships" employing advanced wastewater treatment technology.

Natansohn said that past guests and luxury-selling travel agents worldwide will be ecstatic at the word of new ships for the brand. "The Yachts of Seabourn have always been the highest-rated ships in the world when it comes to cuisine and service," she stated. "With an increased ability to deliver Seabourn's superior cruise experience to
even more travelers, on state-of-the- art vessels, we will continue to define the standard for ultra luxury cruising."

For information on Seabourn cruise vacations, contact a travel agent.

The Yachts of Seabourn provide the ultimate in ultra luxury cruise vacations to the most desirable destinations on earth. Seabourn is a proud member of World's Leading Cruise Lines. Our exclusive alliance also includes Carnival Cruise Lines, Holland America, Princess Cruises, Cunard Line, Costa Cruises and Windstar Cruises. Sharing a
passion to please each guest, and a commitment to quality and value, our member lines appeal to a wide range of lifestyles and budgets.
Together we offer exciting and enriching cruise vacations to the world's most desirable destinations. The Yachts of Seabourn is a brand
of Carnival Corporation and plc (NYSE: CCL; LSE) and (NYSE: CUK, and supports the Ocean Conservation & Tourism Alliance, dedicated to
education and promotion of best practices for protecting the marine environment.


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Waynaro
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posted 10-19-2006 10:38 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good news indeed, but 32,000grt is almost three times bigger than their current ships...though the passenger capacity only doubled.

I am optimistic how yacht-like these twins will fell and how the "sleek lines" will turn out.


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linerguy
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posted 10-19-2006 10:49 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ernie:

This is good news; I can't wait to see what they look like. These new ships will definitely give Silversea a run for their money.

-Russ


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Ernst
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posted 10-19-2006 11:51 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Finally. I hope they will not be detained again.

These ships are actually quite large - a nice passenger to space ratio but quite a step up in size compared to their present ships. (...will they keep them?)

I only hope that these ships will be DIFFERENT to the Europa and the somhow similar large Silverseas ships.

[ 10-19-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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cruiseshipluver
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posted 10-19-2006 12:16 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is indeed great news, i was wondering when Seabourne was going to expand. I dont suppose there are any renderings out as yet?
cruiseshipluver

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Pascal
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posted 10-19-2006 02:35 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, good and unexpected news for "small ships" lovers (even if 32000t isn't so little in the absolute, it's quite small compared to nowaday standards).

198,5m long, 25,6m wide, 32000t and only 450pax.
This makes a space ratio of 71,1t/passengers. This must be a sort of record, I think.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-19-2006 03:35 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynaro:
I am optimistic how yacht-like these twins will fell and how the "sleek lines" will turn out.

Wow, new small ships!

I've heard that they will not look unlike their existing ships.


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Ernst
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posted 10-19-2006 03:37 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

[...]

I've heard that they will not look unlike their existing ships.


I hope they will - they are cute - but for me they are not pretty at all. This is of course a question of personal taste - but how the (present) Seabourn ships ended up being called 'sleek' is beyond my understanding.

[ 10-19-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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Kevin Griffin, London
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posted 10-19-2006 03:49 PM      Profile for Kevin Griffin, London   Author's Homepage   Email Kevin Griffin, London   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These wouldn't happen to be the two ships that Silversea haven't ordered yet would they Ray?

Kevin Griffin in London


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Fairsky
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posted 10-21-2006 12:40 AM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

A brilliant looking ship. A worthy addition to Seabourn's elegant original fleet.


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wah1957
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posted 10-21-2006 02:10 AM      Profile for wah1957   Email wah1957   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
what would happen to the old ships.....sell them...to who?
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Waynaro
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posted 10-21-2006 04:42 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fairsky:

A brilliant looking ship. A worthy addition to Seabourn's elegant original fleet.


Thanks for the picture Fairsky. This new ship looks like enlarged versions of their current ships.

I like it!


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 10-21-2006 07:33 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are they the smallest ships ever ordered by Carnival?

What else has the Mariotti Shipyard, Genoa, built? Anyone?


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Johan C
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posted 10-21-2006 07:51 AM      Profile for Johan C   Email Johan C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Its about time that they sell the old ships. I visited one of them in Antwerp a few years ago and I was not impressed. The suites were quite good but the rest of the ship was rather bland decorated. I found the atrium/ reception area 3 stars at maximum.
I know its all about service but the ship should also be top notch

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Pascal
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posted 10-21-2006 07:55 AM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

What else has the Mariotti Shipyard, Genoa, built? Anyone?



I think they built the Silversea ships and the Seven Seas Voyager and Navigator. Not sure of it.

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posted 10-21-2006 10:49 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Pascal wrote:
I think they built the Silversea ships and the Seven Seas Voyager and Navigator. Not sure of it.

SILVER CLOUD (1994), SILVER WIND (1995), SILVER SHADOW (2000) and SILVER WHISPER (2001) all had their hulls and superstructure built at Visentini (Trieste) while outfitting was done at Mariotti (Genoa). SEVEN SEAS NAVIGATOR (1999) was built at Mariotti while SEVEN SEAS VOYAGER (2003) had her hull built at Visentini and outfitting at Mariotti. The Genoa yard also built MINERVA (Swan Hellenic).

******

Cheers


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Fairsky
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posted 10-21-2006 12:36 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looking closely, it appears a significant portion of the funnel is glass. I can't wait to see larger images and deck plans for the new ships. Any guesses on their names?

Seabourn Destiny
Seabourn Miracle
Seabourn Grace
Seabourn Dream


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Waynaro
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posted 10-21-2006 12:43 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The old trios can be sold to SeaDream Yacht.
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Ernst
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posted 10-21-2006 02:09 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They somehow would suit SeaDream - though they are a a bit larger. The questions is: Does it make any sense? Why selling to a 'competitor' - If SeaDream can keep them in this league why not keeping them?
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I don't think the seabourns would look good with blue hulls and knowing Carnival they rarely sell ships (they would trie to just keep them all in the fleet). I may be very wrong th

I don't see any tenders on these new images. It seems the size is getting alittle large to not have that option. The Regent PG and Navigator have tenders.

This also reminds me of Prinsendam when she was with seabourn and it failed.....?


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quote:
Originally posted by Panama Canal:
I don't think the seabourns would look good with blue hulls and knowing Carnival they rarely sell ships (they would trie to just keep them all in the fleet). I may be very wrong th


I don't think neither they will sell them. Those ships are very small and can go almost anywhere, which won't be the case of a 32000t ship. Selling them would mean that Seabourn gives up their unusual itineraries, very appreciated by their wealthy passengers. But I think Carnival will refit them extensively to make them still match the requirements of the ultra luxury market.


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posted 10-21-2006 08:11 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which reminds me. Tim, what is with Oceania's contemplated newbuilds? They were to come in at about that size, were they not?
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posted 10-21-2006 10:13 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...and a wonderful opportunity to make Speed 3: Cruise Control - The Twins

hehehehe

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posted 10-21-2006 11:27 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Panama Canal wrote:
I don't see any tenders on these new images. It seems the size is getting alittle large to not have that option. The Regent PG and Navigator have tenders.

If you look closely you'll see that there are two tenders (on the starboard side) in the rendering.

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posted 10-21-2006 11:31 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
1st - the lifeboats seen in the rendering could be tenders.

2nd - Seabourn is know for using wooden boats as tenders which are similar to the water taxia in Venice. On the present vessels these boats launched via the astern gate for the water sport platform.


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