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Also the cruise lines short start looking at doing 1-2 day party cruises out of the bigger cities on a regular basis such as Vancouver,Portland,L.A.,San Fransisico and even the East Coast too!
You might notice that lines like Cruise West do itineraries along the Western Coast.
quote:Originally posted by Jekyll:The Jones Act - basically foreign flagged ships cannot carry passengers between two US ports without going to a foreign port of call in between.You might notice that lines like Cruise West do itineraries along the Western Coast.
GP - you posted at the same time I did and you're right they could do it if they began the cruises in Canada....
The Jones Act - basically foreign flagged ships cannot carry passengers between two US ports without going to a foreign port of call in between.
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Wait, so a ship going form Juneau to Seattle would have to stop at a foriegn port afterwards, or...???
quote:Originally posted by 6263866:The Jones Act - basically foreign flagged ships cannot carry passengers between two US ports without going to a foreign port of call in between. Wait, so a ship going form Juneau to Seattle would have to stop at a foriegn port afterwards, or...???
Yes - as in Vancouver, Victoria, Nanaimo, Prince Rupert - British Columbia....
quote:Originally posted by Jekyll:Yes - as in Vancouver, Victoria, Nanaimo, Prince Rupert - British Columbia....
Well not necesarily BEFORE or AFTER but DURING the itinerary
quote:Originally posted by Frosty 4:Forget about Mexico!! Don't we have enough trouble with the illegals. It's getting to the point where you need to speak two languages here in the US. Frosty 4
Come down here to Miami, where you only need one language: Spanish! Rich
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:Come down here to Miami, where you only need one language: Spanish! Rich
That is so funny you mentioned that. Last night I was telling a friend that when I was in Miami Beach a few years ago, I went into a large chain drug store (I think it was Eckards-sp??) and I asked where the cold medicine was. The pretty young girl behind the counter looked at me blankly for what seemed like several minutes. I then realized that she spoke NO English! Even in L.A. it is not that bad as most clerks dealing w/the general public have to speak at least some English. Luckily I speak Spanish but that does not change the fact of this growing problem.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:That is so funny you mentioned that. Last night I was telling a friend that when I was in Miami Beach a few years ago, I went into a large chain drug store (I think it was Eckards-sp??) and I asked where the cold medicine was. The pretty young girl behind the counter looked at me blankly for what seemed like several minutes. I then realized that she spoke NO English! Even in L.A. it is not that bad as most clerks dealing w/the general public have to speak at least some English. Luckily I speak Spanish but that does not change the fact of this growing problem.
That's just a fact of life here, where approx. 70% of the population is Hispanic, and a huge percentage of those people speak no English. You can literally live your entire life here, getting by in Spanish. I'm Anglo, and have lived here for 26 years, but I speak fluent Spanish. Not a single day has gone by when I did not use it for some reason or another.
Rich
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:You can literally live your entire life here, getting by in Spanish. I'm Anglo, and have lived here for 26 years, but I speak fluent Spanish. Not a single day has gone by when I did not use it for some reason or another.Rich
You can literally live your entire life here, getting by in Spanish. I'm Anglo, and have lived here for 26 years, but I speak fluent Spanish. Not a single day has gone by when I did not use it for some reason or another.
So much for the so called 'melting pot'
Pam
quote:Originally posted by 6263866:Wait, so a ship going form Juneau to Seattle would have to stop at a foriegn port afterwards, or...???
quote:Originally posted by Pascal:Isn't there as well a town in the Miami area where about 40% of the population speak French ? I think I've read that somewhere...
We're getting totally off-topic here, but there is a large Haitian community in Miami, where Creole is spoken, similar to French. And during the Winter months we get a lot of French-Canadian snowbirds, speaking Quebecois French.
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:We're getting totally off-topic here, but there is a large Haitian community in Miami, where Creole is spoken, similar to French. And during the Winter months we get a lot of French-Canadian snowbirds, speaking Quebecois French. Rich
BTW, I think that US West and East coast cruises would be quite popular for the european pax as well. Cities such as LA or SF at the West and NY, Boston, Washngton and Philadelphia on the East are quite attractive for an european tourist. Putting several of them in a same itinerary would attract IMO many euro pax.
quote:Originally posted by Pascal: BTW, I think that US West and East coast cruises would be quite popular for the european pax as well. Cities such as LA or SF at the West and NY, Boston, Washngton and Philadelphia on the East are quite attractive for an european tourist. Putting several of them in a same itinerary would attract IMO many euro pax.
I had always assumed that NCL America would or could put one of it's US-flagged ships on the coastal cruises, at least seasonally. But recently I read that their US-flag proviso is for Hawaii only--can anyone shed more light on those arrangements?
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:I had always assumed that NCL America would or could put one of it's US-flagged ships on the coastal cruises, at least seasonally. But recently I read that their US-flag proviso is for Hawaii only--can anyone shed more light on those arrangements?Rich
I think that is the case with the Hawaii ships whch was why NCL had hinted they would use the SSUS for the US itineraries.
quote:Originally posted by timb:I think that is the case with the Hawaii ships whch was why NCL had hinted they would use the SSUS for the US itineraries.
If the SSUS was ever to return to service (which seems unlikely) and did cruises on the east and west coasts, could she use the Panama Canal? I thought the maximum length of ships using the canal today is approx. 965' yet the SSUS is 990'.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:If the SSUS was ever to return to service (which seems unlikely) and did cruises on the east and west coasts, could she use the Panama Canal? I thought the maximum length of ships using the canal today is approx. 965' yet the SSUS is 990'.
Yes, the UNITED STATES was the PanaMax ship of her day--the locks being 1000 feet long, she could just squeeze into them, with about one foot of clearance on either side.
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:Yes, the UNITED STATES was the PanaMax ship of her day--the locks being 1000 feet long, she could just squeeze into them, with about one foot of clearance on either side.Rich
So it seems that at some point the max dimensions were changed to 965'x105'. The SSUSs 990' does seem to be very tight for a ship in a 1000' Panama lock yet she is also 4 feet narrower (101') than todays Panamax width.
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