Personally I'm not sure what the big deal is, apart from formal/themed nights, you should be allowed to wear whatever clothing you want so long as it covers you up and doesnt look appauling. And it is the pants, remember its hidden under the table 95% of the time anyway!

Fine by me I just won't pack anything decent for my trip to Hawaii !

Texas culture?

What a hoot! Now there is a REAL oxymoron.

Look at the Bush administration. Texas culture on display! "If ye seek his monument, look around you". Ok that was Wren, but you get the idea.

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Also, I do not pay attention to what my fellow passengers wear on board. It's none of my business. Too many people get caught up in things that they have no control over. If my main purpose in cruising was to spot what others are wearing then I would save my money and go to the local mall.

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It is undeniable that a dining room full of people in dinner suits looks different from a dining room full of people in jeans and T-shirts. We may all have views about which sort of room we'd prefer to be in. Some people want to dine in formal clothes, in a room full of others wearing formal clothes. This is all to do with ambience and aesthetics, which should be perfectly comprehensible even if you don't personally want to do it.

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Texas culture?

What a hoot! Now there is a REAL oxymoron.

Look at the Bush administration. Texas culture on display! "If ye seek his monument, look around you". Ok that was Wren, but you get the idea.

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Here in L.A. jeans and t-shirts (ok $300.00 dollar t-shirts) are worn at every formal restaurant plus a good shirt and expensive pair of shoes can make it look 'dressy'.

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Just read a news release from NCL that JEANS will be allowed in all dinning rooms

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In the early 1980's it was fashionable to wear Levi's 501's with an open collar dress shirt, dark shoes, and a sport jacket. It is coming back now with a colored T shirt underneath.

guy on the right

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I'm tending towards agreeing with sunviking. NCL just seems to find new and interesting ways of outdoing Carnival in terms of tackiness. They probably are doing it to bring in extra money. This makes me wonder if NCLA is indeed the huge black hole into which NCL's working capital is disappearing, causing them to resort to such measures.

Target corporation even went back to suits at the corporate HQ. . TARGET! SUITS!

I have seen jeans worn on Aurora on a 7 night cruise to Spain/Portugal, but just 4 months eralier when I was on the world cruise it was out of the question.

Of course on formal nights it would not be acceptable for jeans to be worn, but on normal 'smart casual' nights jeans should be allowed so long as they look acceptable. As someone else has already mentioned, if you want to dress up every night, go Cunard or the like.

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Is NCL this desperate? The answer is YES. What do you think?

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I think NCL are purely reflecting the preference of the majority of their passengers. Dress code is certainly an area of concern for first-time cruisers. I’ve heard people say that they dress up for work, so do not want to dress up for a holiday

I’ve not cruised NCL ‘Freestyle’ yet, but the concept does not sound entirely compatible with ‘formality’ to me. Let’s not forget that RCI and Carnival still have the main traditional one main dining room system with two timed sittings.

On my 7 night RCI Caribbean cruise a couple of years ago there were two formal nights. However on both evenings the main dining room was half empty. Passengers had voted with their feet and opted for the casual buffet. Even those that did attend the formal evening were not dressed very formally in my option, although it is very subjective of course. (Many of these passngers changed into more casual clothes after diner).

The Captains Cocktail Party was only attended by maybe a hundred people, some casually dressed, which is a surprisingly low number in my opinion, considering the thousands of passengers onboard. I don’t suppose this trend has reversed itself since?

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This has nothing to do with "spotting" what others are wearing, "control" or interfering with things that are "none of their business".

It is undeniable that a dining room full of people in dinner suits looks different from a dining room full of people in jeans and T-shirts. We may all have views about which sort of room we'd prefer to be in. Some people want to dine in formal clothes, in a room full of others wearing formal clothes. This is all to do with ambience and aesthetics, which should be perfectly comprehensible even if you don't personally want to do it.

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I hope this is one trend the RCI or Carnival avoid and I applaud Princess on my last cruise for turnning away people in jeans. QB]

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By the way, Carnival and RCI allow jeans in the dining room they just have not bothered to make it clear like NCL has. Stand at the door of the dining room on either line and see how many guests are turned away for jeans and yes even shorts.

Also on my last four or five RCI cruises, the Windjammer was a busy place on both formal nights. That alone shows that the trend towards a more casual atmosphere is beginning to take hold and the cruise lines are noticing this. NCL is just listening to what the majority of their passengers want.

RCI, Carnival and NCL all have many new ships on order that will hold thousands of guests. Those cruise lines will do whatever it takes to attract more first time cruisers to fill those new ships. Yes the times are changing when it comes to cruising and I for one am glad to see the changes. Not everyone wants a Cunard experience and that is why we choose lines such as Royal Caribbean. That is why we have the choices.

By the way, who would have thought that a line such as HAL would adopt Anytime dining? Let's see, we now have NCL, Princess and HAL with the Freestyle/Anytime dining and RCI testing it on the Freedom. My bet is Carnival and Celebrity are right behind them. Yes, change is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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