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joe at travelpage
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posted 11-15-2007 05:28 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Press Release from a lawyer who represents "victims" of cruise lines. He seems to be trolling for customers...


Houston, TX November 13, 2007 -- Thousands of college students will soon be leaving college campuses for their Christmas break. A number of students will be heading for warmer climates and cruise ships. Unsuspecting college students and their parents may discover dangers on some cruise lines including serious injury and death. Newspapers, television and the Internet are reporting a number of injuries and deaths on cruise ships. These reports include missing passengers who fell overboard. Other passengers have been injured or simply disappeared.

In the news recently, a cruise ship was alerted to a passenger overboard, but delayed action, resulting in the passenger's death. In another case a young man barely twenty-one years old, on vacation with his friends, had too much to drink and fell overboard while leaning over the railing because he was sick. The event was captured by a ship surveillance camera. His parents hired a law firm to sue the cruise ship line.

Maritime lawyer Bill Ogletree, of the Ogletree Abbott Law Firm in Houston, Texas, made the point that "Passengers are victimized, hurt and die on cruise ships." He continued by by stating that cruise ships are always promoted as the place to party and actively promote the sale of liquor to passengers and do not effectively monitor or police underage passengers who bring alcohol on board, especially in foreign ports.

Cruise ships are advertised as exciting and glitzy but nothing is said about the crimes that are committed on-board. Many cruise liners have larger populations than small cities and every form of crime and neglect can exist on even the best cruise lines. There have been recent reports of murder and rape along with assault, burglary and theft. When you think of a cruise, you think of the slick television ads instead of a reality that includes a mixture of different types of people from all over the world. Passengers and crew are thrown together in cramped quarters and often mix together on-board and on-shore. Cruise lines sometimes fail to properly investigate their employees' records before hiring them and expose passengers to crew members with criminal backgrounds, usually from a country other than the United States.

Jones Act attorneys point out that close quarters association with crew is a risk factor that must be taken into consideration in addition to the normal risk associated with binge drinking, drug experimentation and the party atmosphere prevalent during many college students' spring break and summer vacations. In addition to criminal behavior, there are on-board accidents such as falling overboard due to inadequately designed railings, slipping on wet decks, being hit by falling objects, food poisoning, being thrown about in rough seas due to the negligence of the captain and every conceivable type of injury common to people on land.

Injuries also occur when passengers leave the ship to visit ports of call. Cruise ships arrange and promote tours, trips, scuba, fishing and other activities and sometimes they do not check out or monitor the safety of these companies that provide the services the cruise ship sells to the passengers. In the news recently was a tour bus accident in Chile, which took the lives of passengers who were returning to a cruise ship when the bus swerved to avoid a truck, and plummeted 300 feet. During the same week, a fire broke out aboard a cruises ship in the Caribbean in which one person died and 11 were injured.

Jones Act lawyers say that it is important that college students do the research on various cruise ship lines before making a choice. Internet searches can produce many incidents that point out the risk and danger involved in cruise ship vacations. Awareness and precautions are important to the safety and well being of any student desiring to spend time on a cruise ship either during spring break or summer vacation. No one should take safety for granted just because they are passengers on an American cruise ship line. Most "American" cruise lines are not American at all. Most cruise lines are foreign companies with vessels flying flags of convenience. The Jones Act regulates U.S. shipping and Jones Act cases are handled by a Jones Act lawyer.

About the author: Bill Ogletree is a senior partner in the Ogletree Abbott Law Firm, L.L.P. with its principal offices in Houston, Texas. Mr. Ogletree is a Jones Act attorney and co-author of the new book entitled Jones Act - Maritime Law for Injured Workers now available at Amazon.com.) The Ogletree Abbott Law Firm is a nationwide Jones Act law firm that represents consumers and their families for claims against cruise lines.


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Ernst
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posted 11-15-2007 05:40 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How many passengers fell overboard a cruise ship due to 'inadequately designed railings'? Has anyone a photo or a drawing of an 'inadequately designed railing' aboard a cruise ship?
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Linerrich
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posted 11-15-2007 05:52 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
How many passengers fell overboard a cruise ship due to 'inadequately designed railings'? Has anyone a photo or a drawing of an 'inadequately designed railing' aboard a cruise ship?

I think an 'adequately designed railing' for some of these idiots would be a wire mesh enclosure, 10 feet high, with razor wire along the top. This would be to protect them from themselves!

Rich


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PamM
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posted 11-15-2007 06:37 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a load of *&%$£*$£. Definitley trolling for business calling themselves 1800 in the URL too, smacks of those nasty ads for personal injury claims which people trump up to see what they can get.

Must remember the crew are a 'risk factor' to consider. However personally I think they are far less of a one than any fellow cruisers.

Pam


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Frosty 4
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posted 11-15-2007 06:51 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Isn't this old news that has been discussed here many times. Seems like they are just beating a "dead horse" trying to drum up business.
Frosty 4

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mike sa
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posted 11-16-2007 12:36 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One assumes that this lawyer also represents those injured while using the toilet, which is where this should be.
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posted 11-16-2007 12:56 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I scared to go cruising now!

What a load of trash!
These people are pathetic.

[ 11-16-2007: Message edited by: Cunard Fan ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-16-2007 03:37 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ernst:
How many passengers fell overboard a cruise ship due to 'inadequately designed railings'?

Many! They are simply not wide enough to tight-rope walk on, to sit on, or have sex on, safely!

Its more a case of passengers with 'inadequately designed brains'!

[ 11-16-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 11-16-2007 04:21 AM      Profile for Sutho   Email Sutho   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
pity the cruise lines didnt turn on the brain dead passngers by suing them for loss of revenue, passenger discomfort, search and rescue costs for all the ones who get drunk and jump overboard and all the idiots who sit on the railings.

Makes you wonder where all these idiots get the money from to go on a cruise and how on earth they manage to survive in cities and towns that they come from.

These lawyers have allot of nerve saying how dangerous cruise ships are, shore excursions etc. There is danger all over the world that we live in every day. We can either enjoy life or crawl into a hole and live as if we are already dead. One day they will go to far and no one will be able to go on holidays and no body will leave their own home through fear of getting hurt.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 11-16-2007 02:58 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
One assumes that this lawyer also represents those injured while using the toilet, which is where this should be.

Was that the case of the female airline passenger who was trapped on a vacuum activated plane toilet??


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dougnewman
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posted 11-16-2007 03:48 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a load of BS!

Note that the press release actually admits the person who fell to his death was intoxicated at the time!

It is also rather amusing that apparently "slipping on wet decks, being hit by falling objects, food poisoning" are not among "every conceivable type of injury common to people on land"!

I am also interested to learn that rough seas are the result of the negligence of the captain. And here I was, thinking you could not control the weather !

I am glad the cruise line undoubtedly has enough money to hire a better attorney than this !


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Brian_O
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posted 11-16-2007 04:25 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CTV is jumping on the "it ain't safe to cruise" band wagon with a piece on their weekly program "W5" this weekend. The program is about the dangers of being sexually assualted aboard cruise ships and how the assailants almost always get away with it because the cruise lines and various polce forces refuse to get involved.

Brian


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 11-16-2007 05:52 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi all

Re the article Christmas Break dangers I think the author should go on a cruise crossing the Equator and be dealt with in a suitable way and then put on a raft and cast adrift.

The person is an idiot !

Neil ( Bob )


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posted 11-17-2007 01:03 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Neil Whitmore ( Bob ):
Hi all

Re the article Christmas Break dangers I think the author should go on a cruise crossing the Equator and be dealt with in a suitable way and then put on a raft and cast adrift.

The person is an idiot !

Neil ( Bob )


Why give him a raft? I say just throw him off the side with a weight attached!

Ok maybe no weight...

I agree he's a idiot


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BigUFan
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posted 11-27-2007 03:15 PM      Profile for BigUFan   Author's Homepage   Email BigUFan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What did you expect from the legal industry besides more FUD? What a ridiculous attempt at disguising greed.
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desirod7
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posted 11-27-2007 03:40 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A lawyer can use this as evidence of

CT Topic- Why Spring Breakers and Cruises Don't Mix


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posted 11-27-2007 10:41 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Dave the Wave
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posted 11-28-2007 10:56 AM      Profile for Dave the Wave   Email Dave the Wave   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
BS! I think far worse can happen when going to a hotal in Daytona or Ft Lauderdale and falling off the balcony onto the pooldeck or parking lot below or getting run over when passed out on the beach. Also the drinking and driving that is inevitable yet mostly absent on a cruise. It is also much easier to get lost or abducted on a land based vacation. Natalee Holloway was not on a cruise. I find it to be a very safe environment.

I have been on 18 cruises and never witnessed any of this.


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