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Topic: Paquet Cruises to be revived

Kevin Griffin, London
First Class Passenger
Member # 6010

posted 08-17-2009 12:45 PM

The Paquet cruise brand in France is to be revived by Jean-Maurice Ravon through his company TMR. TMR will apparently charter the 820-berth Costa Allegra to operate Med cruises in the summer of 2010. He has apparently chartered the Costa Romantica for various cruises in the past. TMR had also chartered one of the ex-Renaissance ships for a while before Oceania grabbed it up.

As Costa control the Paquet brand they seem to have come to an agreement with Ravon's TMR to market the ship under the revived name in an attempt to test the French market against Royal Caribbean's Croisières de France and their 800-berth Bleu de France. Whether the Italian ship will carry French officers and/or staff has not been stated.

But a new brand in the underperforming French market may help it grow. France has a long maritime history, but its inhabitants seem to be among the most reluctant in Europe to embrace cruising, but with two new Ponant Cruises ships being built by Fincentieri as well who knows, maybe France will soon have three cruise brands.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-17-2009 12:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin Griffin, London:
[...] but with two new Ponant Cruises ships being built by Fincentieri as well who knows, maybe France will soon have three cruise brands.

Don't forget Club Med.

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adriana & norway lover
First Class Passenger
Member # 7184

posted 08-17-2009 12:56 PM

and Plein Cap Croisieres (MS Adriana III)

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 08-17-2009 01:28 PM

Isn't Club Med Belgian, not French?

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-17-2009 01:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
Isn't Club Med Belgian, not French?

No, it's French and it is certainly geared towards the French market.

BTW - here some video clips on Club Med 1.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-17-2009 01:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adriana & norway lover:
and Plein Cap Croisieres (MS Adriana III)

Do you know why she had the III added last year? I realise she went through some registry changes and assumed it was because of that, but could never see that there was any other vessel of the same name which would cause confusion.

Pam

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-17-2009 01:50 PM

Re comments on a previous thread, will we get a 'Mermoz' along with the 'Paquet' ?

Pam

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Pascal
First Class Passenger
Member # 5510

posted 08-17-2009 01:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
Isn't Club Med Belgian, not French?

The founder was indeed Belgian but it was retaken and developped by French interests only a few years after the beginning. By the way the current CEO is Henri Giscard d'Estaing, son of former president Valery Giscard d'Estaing (the one who, amongst other things, created the G7, ate children in Africa and cut the subsidies to the French Line).

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 08-17-2009 07:09 PM

Thank you Pascal. I thought I remembered the Belgian founder, but was unaware of the French take-over.

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 08-18-2009 05:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin Griffin, London:
But a new brand in the underperforming French market may help it grow. France has a long maritime history, but its inhabitants seem to be among the most reluctant in Europe to embrace cruising, but with two new Ponant Cruises ships being built by Fincentieri as well who knows, maybe France will soon have three cruise brands.

I don't have numbers, so it is just a feeling, but do the French really cruise so much less - don't forget that Costa and MSC are also very much geared to the French, I always thought.

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 08-18-2009 11:45 AM

When I went on my first cruise the SS DOLPHIN was with Paquet at the time.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-18-2009 12:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by DAMBROSI:
When I went on my first cruise the SS DOLPHIN was with Paquet at the time.

Are you sure? I never heard that before.

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 08-18-2009 01:03 PM

"In 1978, the ship was renamed Dolphin IV when she sailed under sales and marketing agreement for Paquet Ulysses Cruises, which was part of Paquet French Cruises."

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-18-2009 01:04 PM

Very interesting - thanks a lot.

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